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It's the branding element of the environmental warnings that are funniest to me. We had Leonard Nimoy warning us in the 1970s about about global cooling and a

It's the branding element of the environmental warnings that are funniest to me. We had Leonard Nimoy warning us in the 1970s about about global cooling and a 'mini ice age'. That didn't materialise so we moved to 'global warming'. Then when that didn't seem to happen either, we moved to the generic 'climate change' - a term which is always true (and meaningless).

jug 3y ago
Global warming didn't seem to happen? Uhh. "Climate change" is used to cover more bases because the effect is not only the warming itself. We learned that you get issues with sticky weather patterns too etc. While the avg yearly temperature of Earth rises, it can also cause effects like extreme cold that sticks in unusual areas.
- verisimi 3y ago
  > Global warming didn't seem to happen? Uhh. Seriously, in your experience, has it changed? And, if so, how do you determine that? For myself, I've noticed nothing special. Seasons change with some warmer than average some colder than average... But that's weather isn't it - it changeable. I really can't say anything seems that different from my youth. The seas are certainly the same height.
  - g-b-r 3y ago
    Wow verisimi noticed nothing special everyone stop we've been wrong all along! You are talking at COP27 right??
    - verisimi 3y ago
      If you don't see anything wrong, but act as if something is wrong because someone told you, that leaves you very open to manipulation. If co2 etc is the biggest disaster ever, shouldn't we be able to see something? Must we take the software models as truth? Do politicians always tell the truth?
IanCal 3y ago
> That didn't materialise so we moved to 'global warming'. Then when that didn't seem to happen either, we moved to the generic 'climate change' - a term which is always true (and meaningless). This is a bit silly and I feel like you should already know this. The very simple message is that the globe is warming and that this changes the climate. It's important to emphasise this last part because it's not the case that making the planet warming simply makes us all a bit toastier. > We had Leonard Nimoy An actor who played a scientist from space.
ben_w 3y ago
> Leonard Nimoy warning us in the 1970s He was also warning us about Klingons off the starboard bow. I'd say that treating all famous people as equivalently knowledgable reflects poorly on you, but really it's much worse than that — it reflects poorly on the way most human minds work.

jug 3y ago

Global warming didn't seem to happen? Uhh. "Climate change" is used to cover more bases because the effect is not only the warming itself. We learned that you get issues with sticky weather patterns too etc. While the avg yearly temperature of Earth rises, it can also cause effects like extreme cold that sticks in unusual areas.

verisimi 3y ago
> Global warming didn't seem to happen? Uhh. Seriously, in your experience, has it changed? And, if so, how do you determine that? For myself, I've noticed nothing special. Seasons change with some warmer than average some colder than average... But that's weather isn't it - it changeable. I really can't say anything seems that different from my youth. The seas are certainly the same height.
- g-b-r 3y ago
  Wow verisimi noticed nothing special everyone stop we've been wrong all along! You are talking at COP27 right??
  - verisimi 3y ago
    If you don't see anything wrong, but act as if something is wrong because someone told you, that leaves you very open to manipulation. If co2 etc is the biggest disaster ever, shouldn't we be able to see something? Must we take the software models as truth? Do politicians always tell the truth?

IanCal 3y ago

> That didn't materialise so we moved to 'global warming'. Then when that didn't seem to happen either, we moved to the generic 'climate change' - a term which is always true (and meaningless). This is a bit silly and I feel like you should already know this. The very simple message is that the globe is warming and that this changes the climate. It's important to emphasise this last part because it's not the case that making the planet warming simply makes us all a bit toastier. > We had Leonard Nimoy An actor who played a scientist from space.

ben_w 3y ago

> Leonard Nimoy warning us in the 1970s He was also warning us about Klingons off the starboard bow. I'd say that treating all famous people as equivalently knowledgable reflects poorly on you, but really it's much worse than that — it reflects poorly on the way most human minds work.