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That's like... his opinion man. Try posting your own, see if you get banned like the Twitter of old.

wtfwhateven 3y ago
If someone tweets "I hate trans people" nothing happens, if someone tweets "I hate cis people" the tweet gets immediately hidden and flagged for hateful content I saw dozens replicating it last week and I was able to replicate it myself
- ThalesX 3y ago
  #doubt Later edit: can confirm, I tried it and I got `Visibility limited: this Post may violate X’s rules against Hateful Conduct.` This is rather disappointing and it might influence my stance on continuing to pay for Premium.
  - wtfwhateven 3y ago
    try it yourself, I just replicated it even got an email saying my tweets visibility was limited for the cis tweet but not the trans one
Volundr 3y ago
The owner of Twitter literally said I'll get suspended. What more do you need?
- ThalesX 3y ago
  > Clear calls for extreme violence are against our terms of service and will result in suspension. I don't disagree with this stance... I need some substantial proof that posting your opinion without calling for extreme violence is going to get your suspended.
  - Volundr 3y ago
    I like how you quoted that part, but not the part where he clearly stated that the term decolonization necessary implies genocide. To my knowledge genocide pretty much requires "extreme violence". For the record, no, decolonization [1] does not mean Jewish genocide, that's his own fever dream, but he's clearly stated that X's position is it does. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization
    - tptacek 3y ago
      It in fact does not require extreme violence. For instance: the Indian Boarding School programs of the early 20th century didn't involve extreme violence (ostensibly, they didn't involve any more coercive force than any other mandatory schooling program; of course, in reality, that wasn't at all true) and didn't have as an organizing goal the death of students/inmates. At the same time, the program was clearly genocidal, and would have fit the UN convention: it was a systemic program undertaken with a goal of destroying an ethnic group, using one of the explicit actions (e) of Article II of the charter. At the same time: I don't think it's that straightforward to dismiss concerns about "decolonization", especially not with a simple link to Wikipedia. That decolonization could represent programs known to their authors as means of eradicating Jewish people (and, in particular, the plurality Mizrahim population of Israel) is not a fever dream. That doesn't make it true, but it's not a facially invalid concern. That advocates of "decolonization" widely responded to the October 7th Hamas Al Aqsa Flood attacks with "decolonization is not a metaphor" does your "fever dream" arguments no favors; those attacks were overtly, expressly genocidal.
      - Volundr 3y ago
        Musk didn't say some radicals used the term as a euphemism for genocide. He said "Yes, “decolonization” necessarily implies a Jewish genocide". He didn't say it was banned in that context, he said it would result in suspension period, because again "decolonization necessarily implies a Jewish genocide" Lots of terms have been used as euphemism for lots of things. It makes no sense to declare a word used in many contexts now means only this one thing, because one group of people used it this way. As I said in another thread I'm against allowing people to hide behind euphemism and dog whistles, by all means if someone is talking about decolonization of Israel, take action! But claiming this is the only meaning and a blanket ban is nonsense.

If someone tweets "I hate trans people" nothing happens, if someone tweets "I hate cis people" the tweet gets immediately hidden and flagged for hateful content I saw dozens replicating it last week and I was able to replicate it myself

ThalesX 3y ago
#doubt Later edit: can confirm, I tried it and I got `Visibility limited: this Post may violate X’s rules against Hateful Conduct.` This is rather disappointing and it might influence my stance on continuing to pay for Premium.
- wtfwhateven 3y ago
  try it yourself, I just replicated it even got an email saying my tweets visibility was limited for the cis tweet but not the trans one

Volundr 3y ago

The owner of Twitter literally said I'll get suspended. What more do you need?

ThalesX 3y ago
> Clear calls for extreme violence are against our terms of service and will result in suspension. I don't disagree with this stance... I need some substantial proof that posting your opinion without calling for extreme violence is going to get your suspended.
- Volundr 3y ago
  I like how you quoted that part, but not the part where he clearly stated that the term decolonization necessary implies genocide. To my knowledge genocide pretty much requires "extreme violence". For the record, no, decolonization [1] does not mean Jewish genocide, that's his own fever dream, but he's clearly stated that X's position is it does. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization
  - tptacek 3y ago
    It in fact does not require extreme violence. For instance: the Indian Boarding School programs of the early 20th century didn't involve extreme violence (ostensibly, they didn't involve any more coercive force than any other mandatory schooling program; of course, in reality, that wasn't at all true) and didn't have as an organizing goal the death of students/inmates. At the same time, the program was clearly genocidal, and would have fit the UN convention: it was a systemic program undertaken with a goal of destroying an ethnic group, using one of the explicit actions (e) of Article II of the charter. At the same time: I don't think it's that straightforward to dismiss concerns about "decolonization", especially not with a simple link to Wikipedia. That decolonization could represent programs known to their authors as means of eradicating Jewish people (and, in particular, the plurality Mizrahim population of Israel) is not a fever dream. That doesn't make it true, but it's not a facially invalid concern. That advocates of "decolonization" widely responded to the October 7th Hamas Al Aqsa Flood attacks with "decolonization is not a metaphor" does your "fever dream" arguments no favors; those attacks were overtly, expressly genocidal.
    - Volundr 3y ago
      Musk didn't say some radicals used the term as a euphemism for genocide. He said "Yes, “decolonization” necessarily implies a Jewish genocide". He didn't say it was banned in that context, he said it would result in suspension period, because again "decolonization necessarily implies a Jewish genocide" Lots of terms have been used as euphemism for lots of things. It makes no sense to declare a word used in many contexts now means only this one thing, because one group of people used it this way. As I said in another thread I'm against allowing people to hide behind euphemism and dog whistles, by all means if someone is talking about decolonization of Israel, take action! But claiming this is the only meaning and a blanket ban is nonsense.