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I understand why you feel this way, but this seems to be the trend for all the latest generation of "polished" software and I think they do this so they can ret

I understand why you feel this way, but this seems to be the trend for all the latest generation of "polished" software and I think they do this so they can retain users. (Another example that comes to mind is Warp, the terminal written in Rust.) To be fair, as an Arc user, by logging in, I can keep my tabs synced perfectly across my personal and work laptops, which is worth it for me.

tentacleuno 3y ago
> (Another example that comes to mind is Warp, the terminal written in Rust.) Sorry, do you mean there's a terminal emulator out there which forces you to login? I'm hoping you mean it provides auxiliary (optional) functionality with a login.
- zxt_tzx 3y ago
  > do you mean there's a terminal emulator out there which forces you to login? Haha yes indeed that's what I meant, I suspect this is only going to become more common whether we like it or not
  - MaxBarraclough 3y ago
    In proprietary software, perhaps. Personally I'd never consider using a terminal emulator that isn't Free and Open Source software.
volsa 3y ago
> [...] I think they do this so they can retain users. They lost me as a potential user within the first 10 seconds and I'm probably not the exception here. No idea how you want to retain users if you lose them before they even get to test your software. > To be fair, as an Arc user, by logging in, I can keep my tabs synced perfectly across my personal and work laptops, which is worth it for me. I can do that with Firefox, Chrome, Brave or any other browser as well without being forced to create an account.
- zxt_tzx 3y ago
  > I can do that with Firefox, Chrome, Brave or any other browser as well without being forced to create an account. Oh I use Chrome too, I was under the impression that you have to sign into Google to sync bookmarks, but I guess your point is the login/account creation steps come afterwards?
allarm 3y ago
No, I’m not even going to give it a try; mandatory login for a browser or a terminal app (!!!) is nonsense.

tentacleuno 3y ago

> (Another example that comes to mind is Warp, the terminal written in Rust.) Sorry, do you mean there's a terminal emulator out there which forces you to login? I'm hoping you mean it provides auxiliary (optional) functionality with a login.

zxt_tzx 3y ago
> do you mean there's a terminal emulator out there which forces you to login? Haha yes indeed that's what I meant, I suspect this is only going to become more common whether we like it or not
- MaxBarraclough 3y ago
  In proprietary software, perhaps. Personally I'd never consider using a terminal emulator that isn't Free and Open Source software.

volsa 3y ago

> [...] I think they do this so they can retain users. They lost me as a potential user within the first 10 seconds and I'm probably not the exception here. No idea how you want to retain users if you lose them before they even get to test your software. > To be fair, as an Arc user, by logging in, I can keep my tabs synced perfectly across my personal and work laptops, which is worth it for me. I can do that with Firefox, Chrome, Brave or any other browser as well without being forced to create an account.

zxt_tzx 3y ago
> I can do that with Firefox, Chrome, Brave or any other browser as well without being forced to create an account. Oh I use Chrome too, I was under the impression that you have to sign into Google to sync bookmarks, but I guess your point is the login/account creation steps come afterwards?

allarm 3y ago

No, I’m not even going to give it a try; mandatory login for a browser or a terminal app (!!!) is nonsense.