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Fundamentally most video games are bullshit. They won't improve you, they won't build you any capability. A lot of them are designed to be as addictive as poker

Fundamentally most video games are bullshit. They won't improve you, they won't build you any capability. A lot of them are designed to be as addictive as poker machines and they will waste your finite time. They won't do you much good. The exceptions are high quality educational games (or utilities, if you like) that actually teach a skill like piano playing or touch typing or spelling or arithmetic, etc.

Supermancho 3y ago
Fundamentally, games are about understanding reality and pushing personal limits. Most mobile games focus on a combination of creativity, probability, timing, statistics and logic as a form of entertainment. Not appreciating what they offer, is not the same as having nothing to offer. The world rewards those with higher skill ceilings in many of these verticals, when leveraged outside of games.
- clouddrover 3y ago
  > The world rewards those with higher skill ceilings in many of these verticals, when leveraged outside of games. It really doesn't. Even e-sports are not profitable for most of the participants: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/20/technology/e-sports-revenue-video-gaming.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/20/technology/e-sports-reven... Self deception is not a useful quality.
  - Supermancho 3y ago
    > It really doesn't It has and does for many. I am a successful, old, developer because of gaming. I still play. ofc I have moved on from pacman. > Even e-sports are not profitable esports is a niche media creation and has nothing to do with the core of gaming prevalence across time. Tag, Snakes in the grass, pickle, etc are not esports. Video games are an extension of these ideas that you dont appreciate because reasons...like profitability? eyeroll > Self deception is not a useful quality ironic. Pretending that it is useless because you dont find or reason value, is not definitive.
    - clouddrover 3y ago
      > I am a successful, old, developer because of gaming. A dealer, are you. Casinos like gambling too. Casinos want you to keep gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwIYg1XaWAg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwIYg1XaWAg > esports is a niche media creation and has nothing to do with the core of gaming prevalence across time. Ah, of course. It's not the real stuff. No true Scotsman would think it's the real stuff. > Pretending that it is useless because you dont find or reason value, is not definitive. Oh no, it's not pretend. It's the fact of the matter.
      - Supermancho 3y ago
        > No true Scotsman would think it's the real stuff. You started on the esports tangent from a sweeping generalization. I'm sure you can convince someone else of your edgy opinions as you move the goalpost. Good luck with that.
        clouddrover 3y ago
        Correctly recognizing the go nowhere, pointless nature of video games is not "edgy". Video games have narrowed you. It's time to stop letting them do that to you. Break free of it.
mcphage 3y ago
Not everything in life is about being as productive as possible. Play is healthy, as is joy.
- clouddrover 3y ago
  You'll get more health, joy, and life satisfaction out of the capability you develop from an actual skill set than you'll ever get from mashing buttons to make some lights blink.
  - wruza 3y ago
    You’re so confident here that it’s reasonable to assume you’re a telepath.
    - clouddrover 3y ago
      Telepathy is not required. All that's required is objectivity and a broader perspective. Video games won't help you develop either one of those.
      - mcphage 3y ago
        > objectivity and a broader perspective Which is clearly what you’re bringing to the conversation here.
        clouddrover 3y ago
        Exactly so.
  - mcphage 3y ago
    > than you'll ever get from mashing buttons to make some lights blink. Well, good thing that video games aren't limited to what existed in a 1970s arcade, then.
    - 3y ago

Supermancho 3y ago

Fundamentally, games are about understanding reality and pushing personal limits. Most mobile games focus on a combination of creativity, probability, timing, statistics and logic as a form of entertainment. Not appreciating what they offer, is not the same as having nothing to offer. The world rewards those with higher skill ceilings in many of these verticals, when leveraged outside of games.

clouddrover 3y ago
> The world rewards those with higher skill ceilings in many of these verticals, when leveraged outside of games. It really doesn't. Even e-sports are not profitable for most of the participants: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/20/technology/e-sports-revenue-video-gaming.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/20/technology/e-sports-reven... Self deception is not a useful quality.
- Supermancho 3y ago
  > It really doesn't It has and does for many. I am a successful, old, developer because of gaming. I still play. ofc I have moved on from pacman. > Even e-sports are not profitable esports is a niche media creation and has nothing to do with the core of gaming prevalence across time. Tag, Snakes in the grass, pickle, etc are not esports. Video games are an extension of these ideas that you dont appreciate because reasons...like profitability? eyeroll > Self deception is not a useful quality ironic. Pretending that it is useless because you dont find or reason value, is not definitive.
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    > I am a successful, old, developer because of gaming. A dealer, are you. Casinos like gambling too. Casinos want you to keep gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwIYg1XaWAg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwIYg1XaWAg > esports is a niche media creation and has nothing to do with the core of gaming prevalence across time. Ah, of course. It's not the real stuff. No true Scotsman would think it's the real stuff. > Pretending that it is useless because you dont find or reason value, is not definitive. Oh no, it's not pretend. It's the fact of the matter.
    - Supermancho 3y ago
      > No true Scotsman would think it's the real stuff. You started on the esports tangent from a sweeping generalization. I'm sure you can convince someone else of your edgy opinions as you move the goalpost. Good luck with that.
      - clouddrover 3y ago
        Correctly recognizing the go nowhere, pointless nature of video games is not "edgy". Video games have narrowed you. It's time to stop letting them do that to you. Break free of it.

mcphage 3y ago

Not everything in life is about being as productive as possible. Play is healthy, as is joy.

clouddrover 3y ago
You'll get more health, joy, and life satisfaction out of the capability you develop from an actual skill set than you'll ever get from mashing buttons to make some lights blink.
- wruza 3y ago
  You’re so confident here that it’s reasonable to assume you’re a telepath.
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    Telepathy is not required. All that's required is objectivity and a broader perspective. Video games won't help you develop either one of those.
    - mcphage 3y ago
      > objectivity and a broader perspective Which is clearly what you’re bringing to the conversation here.
      - clouddrover 3y ago
        Exactly so.
- mcphage 3y ago
  > than you'll ever get from mashing buttons to make some lights blink. Well, good thing that video games aren't limited to what existed in a 1970s arcade, then.
  - 3y ago