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FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen, and pondered how long it would take for a 10+ year chrome user to switch to firefox. The answer (on ma

by nomilk 3y ago

FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen, and pondered how long it would take for a 10+ year chrome user to switch to firefox. The answer (on macOS) was 5 minutes. I was shocked how easy it was (and, frankly, how similar it was). When you first open firefox, it gives options to import all your chrome settings (including saved passwords etc). Super cool.

frameset 3y ago
It's amusing to me how similar this comment is to the ones I heard in the mid to late 2000s from Internet Explorer users expressing surprise at just how easy to was to switch. :) plus ça change!
mariusmg 3y ago
Yeah, you're switching browsers not 3D modelling software. It's easy people. Switch to Firefox today.
- insanitybit 3y ago
  I don't use 3D modeling software, but I use a browser for like... 95% of my day. Any minor UX differences are going to be like nails on a chalkboard, given that. It's no wonder why people don't want to switch, really.
  - adrianN 3y ago
    I use a browser a lot too, but I almost never interact with Firefox UX. Firefox just displays a website and I interact with that.
  - fyokdrigd 3y ago
    yet huge ux changes between chrome updates are fine? *ponderingfaceemoji
    - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
      It's also happening with Firefox. Stupid redesign, felt, each new version. It's not about the design.. but it is, because less readability, less contrast, less visible difference between active/inactive tabs.. and so on.. but you're right. Changing browser is a no-go, but having suddenly different UI is not???? Lol.
    - insanitybit 3y ago
      Are there UX changes? I haven't noticed any.
      - fyokdrigd 3y ago
        exactly. odd uh. most firefox changes are actually to copy what chrome is doing. like removing the search bar and forcing sending everything you type in the address bar to a search engine, having a logged in account in the browser, etc
      - skeaker 3y ago
        Do you not see the irony in this? By admitting that you don't notice the (real and fairly recent and large) UI changes in Chrome you've just dropped all credibility from any argument you might have had about caring about the UI being different. Firefox is really not that different. Even the keyboard shortcuts are the same.
  - dilawar 3y ago
    I took my muscle memory a couple of days to readjust. Switching away from vim to anything else would take me years!
  - Fatnino 3y ago
    I went from Netscape to IE to Firefox to Chrome and back to Firefox. Sure they're different, but it's not jarring. It's like switching to another car. You can just hop in and drive away. Then you gradually adjust the seat just how you like it and install your favorite air freshener in a natural progression, and so on.
    - Klonoar 3y ago
      The car analogy doesn't quite work that way. Disliking one browser's UI/UX over another is like trying to drive two different cars: one with a touch screen console and another one with an analog console. There are genuine reasons to want one over the other and it will color how you use it day to day.
      - IggleSniggle 3y ago
        Sure, but at the most, having to put up with a touch screen is a minor annoyance, and for the most part, you really don't need the functionality that's gated behind those controls. It's a little annoying, yes.
        Klonoar 3y ago
        You might consider it minor whereas others will base a car purchase around it. Different strokes for different folks.
        Fatnino 3y ago
        For example if a car refuses to work with ad blockers I'm going to be buying a different car instead.
  - Slartie 3y ago
    Browsers are just a window to display web apps and pages, though. And these display identically in Chrome as they do in Firefox. Hence the interactions, which 95% of the time are with the web app, not the browser, are practically identical for the most part as well.
  - devnullbrain 3y ago
    The differences are bigger between Chrome on Windows and Chrome on Mac than between Chrome and Firefox on one OS. At least all of the keybindings are the same.
  - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
    I don't know.. but.. it's the way people may use the computer. A former colleague used exactly one window, no matter if it's word or any other software. And most important: the other programs have to be closed, firstly, before switching to eg. browsing. Even my 85y old grandfather who bought his first computer with 73y is capable to use more then 2 windows at once. So for me, i work with chrome, edge and Firefox (main) at the same time. Firefox is 3 Windows with 150 tabs each. Chrome for quick and dirty - when I visit or do something I know I won't need it later anymore - and edge is used for being chat and/or differential search with goog and bing and other search engines (I know, it's easier to use a meta search engine, but it's ok like I do) So.. basically. Each window is a room space in my brain for me and I store knowledge in separated rooms, so I know exactly where the tabs are I'm searching for. It's like a library where I always can look up something. Using favorites within the browser is not possible for me, because I just forget about them. Not so if I work with all the thousands of tabs open :) So, it's possible to use different browsers without saying "maehhh.. but, I .... "
    - pgraf 3y ago
      If you just like the mental separation but don‘t want Chrome, you could also create Firefox profiles with different themes. You can even tweak the browser icon, so I found that sufficient for mental separation
      - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
        Yea, of course.. thank you for mentioning this, never considered..
    - tempestn 3y ago
      450 open tabs? I really have to think it would be worth the time to adapt to using some kind of clipping/note-taking software instead.
      - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
        No it's ok.. but you're right here. There are better suited tools for me. But I'm too lazy haha Just got used to it and I fear notes will be the same like favorites in the browser :)
  - zare_st 3y ago
    If you can't replace your handheld drill to another model because no other model "fits your hand that well", all the other carpenters in the market are going to have an edge over you.
    - insanitybit 3y ago
      How nice to not be a carpenter.
  - wayvey 3y ago
    I use 3D modelling software in the browser
  - kjkjadksj 3y ago
    What like when chrome updates it for you and changed the ux? At least with firefox you have powerful user configurable scripts you can do whatever you like to how things render in the browser. Treestyle tab that fades away when you mouse off of it? Done.
- esperent 3y ago
  All Chromium-based browsers have a feature that I can't get through my day without. I can write click on any website and say "translate this page into English". I use this feature around 20 times a day, sometimes more. It's painstaking to do this in Firefox, even with extensions. Once every year or two I try switching to Firefox, then I remember this is the reason why I don't use it and I go back to Chrome. The day they add this feature is the day I will switch to Firefox.
  - ghusto 3y ago
    It's build into Firefox. If you're on a page not in your default language, a translate icon will appear in the URL bar. Click, done :)
    - esperent 3y ago
      Yeah, I see they added that in the last but one release. However it's only for a tiny number of European languages, and not the one I need which is Vietnamese.
      - ghusto 3y ago
        Shame, though I'd watch that space because I think they're adding more languages.
  - malermeister 3y ago
    The latest Firefox now has that functionality. Firefox translations also have the added benefit of being 100% on-device, your data doesn't have to go to a Google server somewhere.
    - esperent 3y ago
      ... for an extremely limited number of European languages. Great to see progress though.
      - 3y ago
- angch 3y ago
  For my daily use, Firefox needs built-in passkey support. Can't switch for all uses yet. In the meantime, I'm running both.
- zare_st 3y ago
  Absolutely monster analogy. After working for a year in 3DSMax, back in the day, someone asked me to show them something in Lightwave. I couldn't find my way about anything. There is also a far far bigger difference between IDEs than between browsers even if compare only the big names. Compare Visual Studio, IntelliJ and Eclipse. All the browsers are same. They were all the same for 10 years. Single window or MDI. Then Opera came with tabs, then everyone got tabs. That's it. Basically, if we accept the notion that it's hard for someone to switch from Chrome to Firefox we accept the notion that it's hard to move anyone from any ecosystem just on the grounds of them not wanting to touch their muscle memory even a bit. You get to the same option in three to four clicks through different menues. Is it that hard?
  - account42 3y ago
    > All the browsers are same. Which really is a shame. Even worse, browsers (including Firefox) keep erasing whatever differences they do have in a vain attempt at attracting Chrome users while ignoring that their existing userbase chose them for not being Chrome.
  - ParetoOptimal 3y ago
    > Basically, if we accept the notion that it's hard for someone to switch from Chrome to Firefox we accept the notion that it's hard to move anyone from any ecosystem just on the grounds of them not wanting to touch their muscle memory even a bit. You get to the same option in three to four clicks through different menues. Is it that hard? As an emacs user in large part to avoid this, yes it us that hard. It pains me to say that though since I want people to switch to Firefox so it can win against these spyware-laden browsers.
    - sgift 3y ago
      We are all creatures of habit. Even if something is not good in our current experience we often say "yeah, it's bad, but it's a bad I know. Who knows what will be bad in the other software?" - which shows the incredible high threshold this shitty decision by Google has reached for people to seriously consider going back to Firefox (seriously, as in "I've seen more posts about switching (back) to Firefox than in the last 2 or 3 years together")
vasvae3 3y ago
You are annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites but you are not annoyed with firefox's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites plus some ads?
- robobro 3y ago
  Weird, I don't see adds on my Firefox new tab screen. Maybe you accidentally checked ``Sponsored shortcuts" ? :-)
  - martius 3y ago
    I believe it also depends on your location. I only see sponsored tiles when traveling in some countries.
  - vasvae3 3y ago
    "Sponsored shortcuts" comes enabled by default, at least on Windows builds made by Mozilla. If you are using Linux I suppose your distro turns it off by default? btw in my case it adds two ads: Nike and Amazon. They come with tracking parameters that are unique to me (if I create a new browser profile, they change)
    - squarefoot 3y ago
      Disabling them is one click away, however.
      - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
        I'm going to be pedantic and point out that it's two clicks if we count the one to pull up the settings pane in the first place
- deleted 3y ago
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- jb1991 3y ago
  Long time Firefox user here, I’ve never seen ads in the browser. I am on Mac, however. It looks like from the other comments, windows builds somehow have ads.
qwertox 3y ago
I've been using "New Tab Redirect" [0] on Chrome and "New Tab Override" [1] on Firefox for many years. They load a custom start page [2] I host locally which also pulls in some issues from Jira. Also "Keep One Pin Tab" [3] on Chrome to prevent that closing the last tab closes the browser. The same on Firefox but there I don't know what setting I'm using to make it behave that way (update: browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab -> false). [0] https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/new-tab-redirect/icpgjfneehieebagbmdbhnlpiopdcmna https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/new-tab-redirect/ic... [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/new-tab-override/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/new-tab-overr... [2] https://imgur.com/610mVyy https://imgur.com/610mVyy [3] https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/keep-one-pinned-tab/nmcefdbkkkjndgafnlaikloffhdeknod https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/keep-one-pinned-tab...
- fyokdrigd 3y ago
  about:config, close on last tab close, set to false
eloisant 3y ago
The way profiles (or tab containers) work in Firefox sucks compared to Chrome honestly. I could never find a way to open in the correct profile from external applications.
- Semaphor 3y ago
  Containers are amazing imo. And profiles? -P "profile name" is not that hard.
  - cpeterso 3y ago
    You can also create and switch between multiple Firefox profiles by entering about:profiles in the Firefox address bar.
  - _cenw 3y ago
    It's pretty much impossible to have them show up as separate taskbar/dock items. The workaround has always been to run Developer Edition, but that's still not great OS integration. Edge even allows you to pin profiles, and adds the profile icon in the corner.
- kemotep 3y ago
  You can set up specific domains to open up in specific tab containers. Obviously for sites that you have never visited before this complicates things unless you have the default tab container be your “throwaway” or not personally identifying profile. The experience there isn’t perfect and requires some effort to setup but how is that different than getting certain sites to open in specific chrome profiles automatically?
  - eloisant 3y ago
    Yes but that doesn't help for domains that I use for both profiles. Typically Google, when I click on a Google Doc I need to be able to decide to open it in my personal or pro account. With Chrome it goes to the last focused window so it will usually match what I'm currently doing, otherwise all I have to do is focus the right Chrome window before going back to the external app and click the link.
Beijinger 3y ago
I don't understand why people switch browsers. I have many browsers installed on my machine. For browsing I use a heavily modificated firefox. It would be difficult to use this browser for banking or even booking a plane ticket (plane booking websites can be quite fragile!). Use a browser for browsing, e.g. firefox with a tons of plus is, from ublock, noscript and a dozen others and use a main browser like chrome for banking and some other stuff. Don't use a minor browser (opera, vivaldi etc.) for banking.
- tormeh 3y ago
  With such a privacy-first config, might be easier to use librewolf as a base instead of plain firefox.
  - ParetoOptimal 3y ago
    Or https://mullvad.net/en/browser https://mullvad.net/en/browser
    - RunSet 3y ago
      Librewolf is debranded Firefox to remove all the sponsored crap that Firefox inserted: Pocket, Hello, new tab recommendations, default google search, etc. Mullvad browser exists to advertise a VPN. I would not recommend the latter in lieu of the former.
      - ParetoOptimal 3y ago
        Mullvad browser certainly exists in part to advertise a VPN, but offers more privacy protections than Librewolf. See this response from the mullvad-browser developer on exactly this: > There are two main reasons, one which you preemptively answered: > - the privacy model is about having a same fingerprint per platform for Mullvad Browser users, so you're not uniquely identifiable (which will be the case by following privacy hardening guides) > - it is much easier to recommend to user a browser pre-configured for an optimal privacy: some users will want to tinker, but if you don't have the time or knowledge, it's hard to do the right thing > There are also more differences than "just a fork of Firefox", I encourage you to read the following page which goes more into the details: https://mullvad.net/en/browser/hard-facts https://mullvad.net/en/browser/hard-facts source: https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1 https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1 A librewolf contributor and arkenfox developer chimes in as well stating that it's no competition that mullvad-browser is more secure here: https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1#issuecomment-1495998714 https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1#issuecom... So as much as I despise companies putting low effort into software rebrands that offer no value, all the facts point towards that very much not being the case here. Edit: However https://privacytests.org/ https://privacytests.org/ shows mullvad-vpn and librewolf as being very similar wrt privacy.
Ensorceled 3y ago
> FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen On macos, the Google and Firefox home screens are virtually identical: Big "Firefox" or "Google" title, seach bar, short cuts / recently used. Google is actually less distracting since it never changes.
bsenftner 3y ago
Is anyone else having issues logging in, via username & password, to OpenAI.com with Firefox? That is the only reason I'm launching Chrome these days, OpenAI's login gives an error saying I refreshed while logging in, don't do that and try again... in a loop.

by nomilk 3y ago

frameset 3y ago

It's amusing to me how similar this comment is to the ones I heard in the mid to late 2000s from Internet Explorer users expressing surprise at just how easy to was to switch. :) plus ça change!

mariusmg 3y ago

Yeah, you're switching browsers not 3D modelling software. It's easy people. Switch to Firefox today.

insanitybit 3y ago
I don't use 3D modeling software, but I use a browser for like... 95% of my day. Any minor UX differences are going to be like nails on a chalkboard, given that. It's no wonder why people don't want to switch, really.
- adrianN 3y ago
  I use a browser a lot too, but I almost never interact with Firefox UX. Firefox just displays a website and I interact with that.
- fyokdrigd 3y ago
  yet huge ux changes between chrome updates are fine? *ponderingfaceemoji
  - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
    It's also happening with Firefox. Stupid redesign, felt, each new version. It's not about the design.. but it is, because less readability, less contrast, less visible difference between active/inactive tabs.. and so on.. but you're right. Changing browser is a no-go, but having suddenly different UI is not???? Lol.
  - insanitybit 3y ago
    Are there UX changes? I haven't noticed any.
    - fyokdrigd 3y ago
      exactly. odd uh. most firefox changes are actually to copy what chrome is doing. like removing the search bar and forcing sending everything you type in the address bar to a search engine, having a logged in account in the browser, etc
    - skeaker 3y ago
      Do you not see the irony in this? By admitting that you don't notice the (real and fairly recent and large) UI changes in Chrome you've just dropped all credibility from any argument you might have had about caring about the UI being different. Firefox is really not that different. Even the keyboard shortcuts are the same.
- dilawar 3y ago
  I took my muscle memory a couple of days to readjust. Switching away from vim to anything else would take me years!
- Fatnino 3y ago
  I went from Netscape to IE to Firefox to Chrome and back to Firefox. Sure they're different, but it's not jarring. It's like switching to another car. You can just hop in and drive away. Then you gradually adjust the seat just how you like it and install your favorite air freshener in a natural progression, and so on.
  - Klonoar 3y ago
    The car analogy doesn't quite work that way. Disliking one browser's UI/UX over another is like trying to drive two different cars: one with a touch screen console and another one with an analog console. There are genuine reasons to want one over the other and it will color how you use it day to day.
    - IggleSniggle 3y ago
      Sure, but at the most, having to put up with a touch screen is a minor annoyance, and for the most part, you really don't need the functionality that's gated behind those controls. It's a little annoying, yes.
      - Klonoar 3y ago
        You might consider it minor whereas others will base a car purchase around it. Different strokes for different folks.
        Fatnino 3y ago
        For example if a car refuses to work with ad blockers I'm going to be buying a different car instead.
- Slartie 3y ago
  Browsers are just a window to display web apps and pages, though. And these display identically in Chrome as they do in Firefox. Hence the interactions, which 95% of the time are with the web app, not the browser, are practically identical for the most part as well.
- devnullbrain 3y ago
  The differences are bigger between Chrome on Windows and Chrome on Mac than between Chrome and Firefox on one OS. At least all of the keybindings are the same.
- theGeatZhopa 3y ago
  I don't know.. but.. it's the way people may use the computer. A former colleague used exactly one window, no matter if it's word or any other software. And most important: the other programs have to be closed, firstly, before switching to eg. browsing. Even my 85y old grandfather who bought his first computer with 73y is capable to use more then 2 windows at once. So for me, i work with chrome, edge and Firefox (main) at the same time. Firefox is 3 Windows with 150 tabs each. Chrome for quick and dirty - when I visit or do something I know I won't need it later anymore - and edge is used for being chat and/or differential search with goog and bing and other search engines (I know, it's easier to use a meta search engine, but it's ok like I do) So.. basically. Each window is a room space in my brain for me and I store knowledge in separated rooms, so I know exactly where the tabs are I'm searching for. It's like a library where I always can look up something. Using favorites within the browser is not possible for me, because I just forget about them. Not so if I work with all the thousands of tabs open :) So, it's possible to use different browsers without saying "maehhh.. but, I .... "
  - pgraf 3y ago
    If you just like the mental separation but don‘t want Chrome, you could also create Firefox profiles with different themes. You can even tweak the browser icon, so I found that sufficient for mental separation
    - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
      Yea, of course.. thank you for mentioning this, never considered..
  - tempestn 3y ago
    450 open tabs? I really have to think it would be worth the time to adapt to using some kind of clipping/note-taking software instead.
    - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
      No it's ok.. but you're right here. There are better suited tools for me. But I'm too lazy haha Just got used to it and I fear notes will be the same like favorites in the browser :)
- zare_st 3y ago
  If you can't replace your handheld drill to another model because no other model "fits your hand that well", all the other carpenters in the market are going to have an edge over you.
  - insanitybit 3y ago
    How nice to not be a carpenter.
- wayvey 3y ago
  I use 3D modelling software in the browser
- kjkjadksj 3y ago
  What like when chrome updates it for you and changed the ux? At least with firefox you have powerful user configurable scripts you can do whatever you like to how things render in the browser. Treestyle tab that fades away when you mouse off of it? Done.
esperent 3y ago
All Chromium-based browsers have a feature that I can't get through my day without. I can write click on any website and say "translate this page into English". I use this feature around 20 times a day, sometimes more. It's painstaking to do this in Firefox, even with extensions. Once every year or two I try switching to Firefox, then I remember this is the reason why I don't use it and I go back to Chrome. The day they add this feature is the day I will switch to Firefox.
- ghusto 3y ago
  It's build into Firefox. If you're on a page not in your default language, a translate icon will appear in the URL bar. Click, done :)
  - esperent 3y ago
    Yeah, I see they added that in the last but one release. However it's only for a tiny number of European languages, and not the one I need which is Vietnamese.
    - ghusto 3y ago
      Shame, though I'd watch that space because I think they're adding more languages.
- malermeister 3y ago
  The latest Firefox now has that functionality. Firefox translations also have the added benefit of being 100% on-device, your data doesn't have to go to a Google server somewhere.
  - esperent 3y ago
    ... for an extremely limited number of European languages. Great to see progress though.
    - 3y ago
angch 3y ago
For my daily use, Firefox needs built-in passkey support. Can't switch for all uses yet. In the meantime, I'm running both.
zare_st 3y ago
Absolutely monster analogy. After working for a year in 3DSMax, back in the day, someone asked me to show them something in Lightwave. I couldn't find my way about anything. There is also a far far bigger difference between IDEs than between browsers even if compare only the big names. Compare Visual Studio, IntelliJ and Eclipse. All the browsers are same. They were all the same for 10 years. Single window or MDI. Then Opera came with tabs, then everyone got tabs. That's it. Basically, if we accept the notion that it's hard for someone to switch from Chrome to Firefox we accept the notion that it's hard to move anyone from any ecosystem just on the grounds of them not wanting to touch their muscle memory even a bit. You get to the same option in three to four clicks through different menues. Is it that hard?
- account42 3y ago
  > All the browsers are same. Which really is a shame. Even worse, browsers (including Firefox) keep erasing whatever differences they do have in a vain attempt at attracting Chrome users while ignoring that their existing userbase chose them for not being Chrome.
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago
  > Basically, if we accept the notion that it's hard for someone to switch from Chrome to Firefox we accept the notion that it's hard to move anyone from any ecosystem just on the grounds of them not wanting to touch their muscle memory even a bit. You get to the same option in three to four clicks through different menues. Is it that hard? As an emacs user in large part to avoid this, yes it us that hard. It pains me to say that though since I want people to switch to Firefox so it can win against these spyware-laden browsers.
  - sgift 3y ago
    We are all creatures of habit. Even if something is not good in our current experience we often say "yeah, it's bad, but it's a bad I know. Who knows what will be bad in the other software?" - which shows the incredible high threshold this shitty decision by Google has reached for people to seriously consider going back to Firefox (seriously, as in "I've seen more posts about switching (back) to Firefox than in the last 2 or 3 years together")

vasvae3 3y ago

You are annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites but you are not annoyed with firefox's distracting home screen that shows your most visited sites plus some ads?

robobro 3y ago
Weird, I don't see adds on my Firefox new tab screen. Maybe you accidentally checked ``Sponsored shortcuts" ? :-)
- martius 3y ago
  I believe it also depends on your location. I only see sponsored tiles when traveling in some countries.
- vasvae3 3y ago
  "Sponsored shortcuts" comes enabled by default, at least on Windows builds made by Mozilla. If you are using Linux I suppose your distro turns it off by default? btw in my case it adds two ads: Nike and Amazon. They come with tracking parameters that are unique to me (if I create a new browser profile, they change)
  - squarefoot 3y ago
    Disabling them is one click away, however.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
      I'm going to be pedantic and point out that it's two clicks if we count the one to pull up the settings pane in the first place
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jb1991 3y ago
Long time Firefox user here, I’ve never seen ads in the browser. I am on Mac, however. It looks like from the other comments, windows builds somehow have ads.

qwertox 3y ago

I've been using "New Tab Redirect" [0] on Chrome and "New Tab Override" [1] on Firefox for many years. They load a custom start page [2] I host locally which also pulls in some issues from Jira. Also "Keep One Pin Tab" [3] on Chrome to prevent that closing the last tab closes the browser. The same on Firefox but there I don't know what setting I'm using to make it behave that way (update: browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab -> false). [0] https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/new-tab-redirect/icpgjfneehieebagbmdbhnlpiopdcmna https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/new-tab-redirect/ic... [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/new-tab-override/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/new-tab-overr... [2] https://imgur.com/610mVyy https://imgur.com/610mVyy [3] https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/keep-one-pinned-tab/nmcefdbkkkjndgafnlaikloffhdeknod https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/keep-one-pinned-tab...

fyokdrigd 3y ago
about:config, close on last tab close, set to false

eloisant 3y ago

The way profiles (or tab containers) work in Firefox sucks compared to Chrome honestly. I could never find a way to open in the correct profile from external applications.

Semaphor 3y ago
Containers are amazing imo. And profiles? -P "profile name" is not that hard.
- cpeterso 3y ago
  You can also create and switch between multiple Firefox profiles by entering about:profiles in the Firefox address bar.
- _cenw 3y ago
  It's pretty much impossible to have them show up as separate taskbar/dock items. The workaround has always been to run Developer Edition, but that's still not great OS integration. Edge even allows you to pin profiles, and adds the profile icon in the corner.
kemotep 3y ago
You can set up specific domains to open up in specific tab containers. Obviously for sites that you have never visited before this complicates things unless you have the default tab container be your “throwaway” or not personally identifying profile. The experience there isn’t perfect and requires some effort to setup but how is that different than getting certain sites to open in specific chrome profiles automatically?
- eloisant 3y ago
  Yes but that doesn't help for domains that I use for both profiles. Typically Google, when I click on a Google Doc I need to be able to decide to open it in my personal or pro account. With Chrome it goes to the last focused window so it will usually match what I'm currently doing, otherwise all I have to do is focus the right Chrome window before going back to the external app and click the link.

Beijinger 3y ago

I don't understand why people switch browsers. I have many browsers installed on my machine. For browsing I use a heavily modificated firefox. It would be difficult to use this browser for banking or even booking a plane ticket (plane booking websites can be quite fragile!). Use a browser for browsing, e.g. firefox with a tons of plus is, from ublock, noscript and a dozen others and use a main browser like chrome for banking and some other stuff. Don't use a minor browser (opera, vivaldi etc.) for banking.

tormeh 3y ago
With such a privacy-first config, might be easier to use librewolf as a base instead of plain firefox.
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago
  Or https://mullvad.net/en/browser https://mullvad.net/en/browser
  - RunSet 3y ago
    Librewolf is debranded Firefox to remove all the sponsored crap that Firefox inserted: Pocket, Hello, new tab recommendations, default google search, etc. Mullvad browser exists to advertise a VPN. I would not recommend the latter in lieu of the former.
    - ParetoOptimal 3y ago
      Mullvad browser certainly exists in part to advertise a VPN, but offers more privacy protections than Librewolf. See this response from the mullvad-browser developer on exactly this: > There are two main reasons, one which you preemptively answered: > - the privacy model is about having a same fingerprint per platform for Mullvad Browser users, so you're not uniquely identifiable (which will be the case by following privacy hardening guides) > - it is much easier to recommend to user a browser pre-configured for an optimal privacy: some users will want to tinker, but if you don't have the time or knowledge, it's hard to do the right thing > There are also more differences than "just a fork of Firefox", I encourage you to read the following page which goes more into the details: https://mullvad.net/en/browser/hard-facts https://mullvad.net/en/browser/hard-facts source: https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1 https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1 A librewolf contributor and arkenfox developer chimes in as well stating that it's no competition that mullvad-browser is more secure here: https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1#issuecomment-1495998714 https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1#issuecom... So as much as I despise companies putting low effort into software rebrands that offer no value, all the facts point towards that very much not being the case here. Edit: However https://privacytests.org/ https://privacytests.org/ shows mullvad-vpn and librewolf as being very similar wrt privacy.

Ensorceled 3y ago

> FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen On macos, the Google and Firefox home screens are virtually identical: Big "Firefox" or "Google" title, seach bar, short cuts / recently used. Google is actually less distracting since it never changes.

bsenftner 3y ago

Is anyone else having issues logging in, via username & password, to OpenAI.com with Firefox? That is the only reason I'm launching Chrome these days, OpenAI's login gives an error saying I refreshed while logging in, don't do that and try again... in a loop.