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Are there any reports of data loss from Gmail? My friend has lost all her Gmail emails since May 2023 until Tuesday 21 November.

by spuz 3y ago

ace2358 3y ago
Now that you mention it, I did have gmail fail to deliver a bunch of email from Thursday - Friday. Didn’t notice until Saturday when a bunch of email came in. I’m a 0 unread kind of guy so getting 15 emails in one morning was abnormal.
- q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 3y ago
  > My friend has lost all her Gmail emails since May 2023 until Tuesday 21 November. > I did have gmail fail to deliver a bunch of email from Thursday - Friday. I'm honestly just stunned to be reading stuff like this. I'm only just now realizing this that I'd always implicitly assumed that Google would not make mistakes like this. I guess it's time to go frantically run Takeout on all of my Google accounts... and figure out somewhere to save the ZIP files other than Google Drive. Just curious, how do you know that Gmail failed to deliver the email? Is it possible that you just genuinely got no email for a couple days, and then got a spike of email on Saturday? Poisson processes do be like that sometimes...
  - jamesfinlayson 3y ago
    > I'm only just now realizing this that I'd always implicitly assumed that Google would not make mistakes like this. I kind of agree, but I noticed a little while ago that there some quirk in my Google Drive where a directory was empty but the directory was also appearing in two separate parent directories. I'm moving off Google Drive for different reasons but I'm sure I had a file in there that has disappeared.
    - oefrha 3y ago
      Any file/directory in Google Drive could have multiple parents by design (this behavior was discontinued a few years ago), so a directory appearing in two separate parent directories doesn’t necessarily indicate a quirk. Another counterintuitive thing about Google Drive is items with the same name can coexist in the same directory.
      - jamesfinlayson 3y ago
        Ah, interesting - the folder has definitely been there for a number of years so that could explain part of it.
  - ace2358 3y ago
    Well the emails said Thursday and Friday on them. I have inbox zero lifestyle. I only get 5 emails a day so getting 12 or so of them from a few days ago. Only explanation is they weren’t sent. Also, I was buying something on gumtree. I missed out on the sale because I didn’t receive any emails with the reply from the seller to my messages. They did reply I found in the app, but I didn’t realise until they sold the item to someone else. So I had the messages in gumtree app. The emails turned up on Saturday. So I can 100% confirm the emails were late.
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dpkirchner 3y ago
It looks like I've "lost" all of my paid gsuite account emails prior to Oct 13rd if I look at "all mail" and Oct 5th if I look at "important" mail. My free account appears to be missing emails prior to May 10th if I look at "all mail" and Apr 2nd if I look at "important" mail. Searching for terms I know are included in tons of emails going back years returns even older results. Given that I can see older emails when filtering or searching, I'm hopeful none of the messages are actually gone, just unreferenced.
- londons_explore 3y ago
  All gmail views are searches (ie. a view of "Inbox" is simply a search for mail tagged Inbox). My guess is that someone is trying to save money on search indexing and limiting the number of results that can be returned.

Are there any reports of data loss from Gmail? My friend has lost all her Gmail emails since May 2023 until Tuesday 21 November.

by spuz 3y ago

Are there any reports of data loss from Gmail? My friend has lost all her Gmail emails since May 2023 until Tuesday 21 November.

ace2358 3y ago

Now that you mention it, I did have gmail fail to deliver a bunch of email from Thursday - Friday. Didn’t notice until Saturday when a bunch of email came in. I’m a 0 unread kind of guy so getting 15 emails in one morning was abnormal.

q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 3y ago
> My friend has lost all her Gmail emails since May 2023 until Tuesday 21 November. > I did have gmail fail to deliver a bunch of email from Thursday - Friday. I'm honestly just stunned to be reading stuff like this. I'm only just now realizing this that I'd always implicitly assumed that Google would not make mistakes like this. I guess it's time to go frantically run Takeout on all of my Google accounts... and figure out somewhere to save the ZIP files other than Google Drive. Just curious, how do you know that Gmail failed to deliver the email? Is it possible that you just genuinely got no email for a couple days, and then got a spike of email on Saturday? Poisson processes do be like that sometimes...
- jamesfinlayson 3y ago
  > I'm only just now realizing this that I'd always implicitly assumed that Google would not make mistakes like this. I kind of agree, but I noticed a little while ago that there some quirk in my Google Drive where a directory was empty but the directory was also appearing in two separate parent directories. I'm moving off Google Drive for different reasons but I'm sure I had a file in there that has disappeared.
  - oefrha 3y ago
    Any file/directory in Google Drive could have multiple parents by design (this behavior was discontinued a few years ago), so a directory appearing in two separate parent directories doesn’t necessarily indicate a quirk. Another counterintuitive thing about Google Drive is items with the same name can coexist in the same directory.
    - jamesfinlayson 3y ago
      Ah, interesting - the folder has definitely been there for a number of years so that could explain part of it.
- ace2358 3y ago
  Well the emails said Thursday and Friday on them. I have inbox zero lifestyle. I only get 5 emails a day so getting 12 or so of them from a few days ago. Only explanation is they weren’t sent. Also, I was buying something on gumtree. I missed out on the sale because I didn’t receive any emails with the reply from the seller to my messages. They did reply I found in the app, but I didn’t realise until they sold the item to someone else. So I had the messages in gumtree app. The emails turned up on Saturday. So I can 100% confirm the emails were late.

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dpkirchner 3y ago

It looks like I've "lost" all of my paid gsuite account emails prior to Oct 13rd if I look at "all mail" and Oct 5th if I look at "important" mail. My free account appears to be missing emails prior to May 10th if I look at "all mail" and Apr 2nd if I look at "important" mail. Searching for terms I know are included in tons of emails going back years returns even older results. Given that I can see older emails when filtering or searching, I'm hopeful none of the messages are actually gone, just unreferenced.

londons_explore 3y ago
All gmail views are searches (ie. a view of "Inbox" is simply a search for mail tagged Inbox). My guess is that someone is trying to save money on search indexing and limiting the number of results that can be returned.