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Aside. I completely stopped using book marks. Everything relevant to me will be an open tab, and closed once read or no longer useful; everything not immediatel

by 9dev 3y ago

Aside. I completely stopped using book marks. Everything relevant to me will be an open tab, and closed once read or no longer useful; everything not immediately relevant enough to warrant an open tab will probably not be read anyway, or the link broken once I get back to it. This has made my digital life a lot less burdensome to manage, and it also felt freeing to drop all that unorganised baggage. To all those bookmark junkies out there - do you really actually read all that stuff, or is it just data hoarding? (And I don’t mean this in spite, I’ve hoarded lots of data at one point or another myself :-))

mkotowski 3y ago
Yes, but now you can run into risk of becoming 1000-tabs-open junkie like me :-) Off-topic, but given how people try to apply LLMs to everything right now, I am surprised there is no extension or something similar to help manage bookmarked and open tabs.
- hendler 3y ago
  I use quicktabs https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/quick-tabs/jnjfeinjfmenlddahdjdmgpbokiacbbb?pli=1 https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/quick-tabs/jnjfeinj...
buro9 3y ago
I bookmark things in pinboard that I may wish to find again, at some other point in time... I am helping my future self, and I appreciate that by paying pinboard to ensure a backup of the page is saved. I search the bookmarks every week or two, and I frequently search back years to "I recall a passage, but now want to read the full article again or share it with someone"... this works even when the site has long-ceased to exist because of the backup scraped at the time. I have bookmarks going back to the mid-1990s, and I do periodically (every year or two) look at which still work and which have fallen by the wayside for which I have no saved page — and I delete those. Additionally I have this page https://david.kitchen/bookmarks/ https://david.kitchen/bookmarks/ which is my browser home page in all browsers, and is another form of a bookmark collection, and this is how I mostly interact... where pinboard is long-term storage of bookmarks, anything I interact with regularly enough is on this page. I update this whenever I find myself returning to the same thing for more than a few weeks. I don't feel like I carry any baggage, the opposite in fact... I feel like this clears the mind of the responsibility to remember as this is mostly long-term memory and short-term convenience. I also keep my browsers in permanent incognito mode with NoScript... so tab-city is not a thing I've ever done, every session is a blank session. I view bookmarks like data on a computer... it should be extremely portable across devices and OSs, and so bookmarks should transcend the device, a specific browser, and be available everywhere.
duiker101 3y ago
The problem is when I suddenly remember something I saw a month ago that is now relevant and I can't find it anymore. That's why I preemptively bookmark interesting stuff
- bemmu 3y ago
  In that case I search my browsing history or re-navigate to that thing with a search engine.
  - devsda 3y ago
    History search is not an option when my browser is mostly in private window. For me, Google has a mind of its own and has not been reliable in giving out related links even when I search with the exact page title from memory. Happened a lot with stackoverflow type sites. I use Firefox bookmarks and think it has a reasonably good bookmark manager with support for tags and custom keyword searches etc. Tip: In Firefox you can search bookmarks directly by prefixing searches with a * . It can even search bookmark tags.
    - cyberbolt23 3y ago
      In Chrome you can search bookmarks too. Start typing @bookmarks and it autocompletes search on your bookmarks. Same with @tabs to search through open tabs.
      - pbhjpbhj 3y ago
        Edge has helpfully copied Firefox's "awesome bar" in doing bookmark search and history search with * and ^, respectively. Sadly Edge doesn't do tags, I initiate them by appending keywords to the bookmark name. (I have to use Edge at work.)
- progbits 3y ago
  This. I also edit the bookmark title to include a bunch of keywords. Finding an article I have only a vague recollection of on the wide web can be hard, but finding it in my bookmarks is easy. I was a big del.icio.us user back in the day, maybe self hosting something like the OP is the way to go.
barefeg 3y ago
Have you tried the arc browser? It embraces having lots of open tabs and organize them as you wish (or not) https://arc.net/ https://arc.net/
- otteromkram 3y ago
  I updated their slogan just now: "Firefox is the Chrome replacement I've already been using."
arthur_sav 3y ago
For me the trick was to no hoard random bookmarks. I still keep a short list of bookmarks that I visit often of very likely to re-visit. Anything else is purged.
helpfulContrib 3y ago
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creesch 3y ago
I mostly use bookmarks as "speeddials" for frequently visited websites in my browsers bookmark bar. Just the icons, no text so it is fairly clean as well. I then keep one directory for stuff that is on my short term future "todo" list. For example, when I am deciding on buying a product I might have multiple shop listings there. So to your statement here > To all those bookmark junkies out there My response is that there is a middle ground ;)
rsolva 3y ago
I did not stop bookmarking, I just radically simplified my routine. No (sub)folders, no system, just bookmark everything into one folder, lightly sprinkled with some tags from the top of my head. Since I never know what I will actually find useful at a later time, I spend no energy organizing them. But having a simple record of my (want to) reads is super useful whenever my brain vaguely remember having seen or read something that comes up in a conversion/project, but not where and the exact name. Since I use broad on-the-top-of-my-head tags, I usually find what I'm looking for within a few seconds. This strategy has lowered my barrier to bookmark something significantly, and reduced the mental overhead to almost zero. Decades of overthinking my bookmarking habits and this has been by far the most useful system!
- vi2837 3y ago
  I use the same approach, which works great for me.
dotancohen 3y ago
For me it's now a tree of org mode files that quote that actual relevant part of the page, and a link back to the original. But yes, over two and a half decades of storing URLs with little context other than their place in a hierarchy of topics has led me to the conclusion that data on the internet is ephemeral. If you want to save it, copy it.
Semaphor 3y ago
I’m using only browser bookmarks, and only the always visible bookmark bar. I tried a few others, but the friction, any friction, is too much for me to consistently use them. And yeah, I use bookmarks a lot. For a few different purposes. First off, I almost never encounter dead links. That’s an absolute rarity and I can’t even remember when that last happened. That’s more for reddit/SO links. Some that I have as favicon only for regularly visited sites, but not regularly enough to have them as pinned tab. Following those, I have temporary bookmarks. That’s currently fantastic fiction as a reminder to myself to use it, that will probably be gone next year as I got used to using it. Then, folders. First is cooking stuff, from before I used a recipe manager. That’s around 100 bookmarks there that are categorized into subfolders. Music. Mostly YT vids that are not on Bandcamp where I have a wishlist. Usually use those for songrequests on twitch. Next is the voice folder, a long-term project of replacing alexa with something fully local, everything I researched or even just hardware sources. Sesotho, for information for learning the language. Only relevant when I’m actually studying something new there. 3 gaming folders for build inspiration from tabletop guides (WotR, Solasta, BG3; videogame guides are way too minmaxy for me) Following those are random links. I’m now roughly at 1/3rd to 1/2 of my window size, everything that follows is currently relevant stuff that I still want to lookup or make use of. New ones get added to the left. Once something falls into the overflow area, it’s probably irrelevant, but often I do get back to those links before that happens. So yeah, I love bookmarks.
ranting-moth 3y ago
I bookmark and tag a lot of stuff. It's come in handy multiple times. Even stuff I've read, if I remotely think I'll want to see it again, I bookmark and tag. I never manually go through my bookmarks, only search them. But they are a pointer back in history for me.
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mkotowski 3y ago

Yes, but now you can run into risk of becoming 1000-tabs-open junkie like me :-) Off-topic, but given how people try to apply LLMs to everything right now, I am surprised there is no extension or something similar to help manage bookmarked and open tabs.

hendler 3y ago
I use quicktabs https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/quick-tabs/jnjfeinjfmenlddahdjdmgpbokiacbbb?pli=1 https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/quick-tabs/jnjfeinj...

buro9 3y ago

I bookmark things in pinboard that I may wish to find again, at some other point in time... I am helping my future self, and I appreciate that by paying pinboard to ensure a backup of the page is saved. I search the bookmarks every week or two, and I frequently search back years to "I recall a passage, but now want to read the full article again or share it with someone"... this works even when the site has long-ceased to exist because of the backup scraped at the time. I have bookmarks going back to the mid-1990s, and I do periodically (every year or two) look at which still work and which have fallen by the wayside for which I have no saved page — and I delete those. Additionally I have this page https://david.kitchen/bookmarks/ https://david.kitchen/bookmarks/ which is my browser home page in all browsers, and is another form of a bookmark collection, and this is how I mostly interact... where pinboard is long-term storage of bookmarks, anything I interact with regularly enough is on this page. I update this whenever I find myself returning to the same thing for more than a few weeks. I don't feel like I carry any baggage, the opposite in fact... I feel like this clears the mind of the responsibility to remember as this is mostly long-term memory and short-term convenience. I also keep my browsers in permanent incognito mode with NoScript... so tab-city is not a thing I've ever done, every session is a blank session. I view bookmarks like data on a computer... it should be extremely portable across devices and OSs, and so bookmarks should transcend the device, a specific browser, and be available everywhere.

duiker101 3y ago

The problem is when I suddenly remember something I saw a month ago that is now relevant and I can't find it anymore. That's why I preemptively bookmark interesting stuff

bemmu 3y ago
In that case I search my browsing history or re-navigate to that thing with a search engine.
- devsda 3y ago
  History search is not an option when my browser is mostly in private window. For me, Google has a mind of its own and has not been reliable in giving out related links even when I search with the exact page title from memory. Happened a lot with stackoverflow type sites. I use Firefox bookmarks and think it has a reasonably good bookmark manager with support for tags and custom keyword searches etc. Tip: In Firefox you can search bookmarks directly by prefixing searches with a * . It can even search bookmark tags.
  - cyberbolt23 3y ago
    In Chrome you can search bookmarks too. Start typing @bookmarks and it autocompletes search on your bookmarks. Same with @tabs to search through open tabs.
    - pbhjpbhj 3y ago
      Edge has helpfully copied Firefox's "awesome bar" in doing bookmark search and history search with * and ^, respectively. Sadly Edge doesn't do tags, I initiate them by appending keywords to the bookmark name. (I have to use Edge at work.)
progbits 3y ago
This. I also edit the bookmark title to include a bunch of keywords. Finding an article I have only a vague recollection of on the wide web can be hard, but finding it in my bookmarks is easy. I was a big del.icio.us user back in the day, maybe self hosting something like the OP is the way to go.

barefeg 3y ago

Have you tried the arc browser? It embraces having lots of open tabs and organize them as you wish (or not) https://arc.net/ https://arc.net/

otteromkram 3y ago
I updated their slogan just now: "Firefox is the Chrome replacement I've already been using."

arthur_sav 3y ago

For me the trick was to no hoard random bookmarks. I still keep a short list of bookmarks that I visit often of very likely to re-visit. Anything else is purged.

helpfulContrib 3y ago

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creesch 3y ago

I mostly use bookmarks as "speeddials" for frequently visited websites in my browsers bookmark bar. Just the icons, no text so it is fairly clean as well. I then keep one directory for stuff that is on my short term future "todo" list. For example, when I am deciding on buying a product I might have multiple shop listings there. So to your statement here > To all those bookmark junkies out there My response is that there is a middle ground ;)

rsolva 3y ago

I did not stop bookmarking, I just radically simplified my routine. No (sub)folders, no system, just bookmark everything into one folder, lightly sprinkled with some tags from the top of my head. Since I never know what I will actually find useful at a later time, I spend no energy organizing them. But having a simple record of my (want to) reads is super useful whenever my brain vaguely remember having seen or read something that comes up in a conversion/project, but not where and the exact name. Since I use broad on-the-top-of-my-head tags, I usually find what I'm looking for within a few seconds. This strategy has lowered my barrier to bookmark something significantly, and reduced the mental overhead to almost zero. Decades of overthinking my bookmarking habits and this has been by far the most useful system!

vi2837 3y ago
I use the same approach, which works great for me.

dotancohen 3y ago

For me it's now a tree of org mode files that quote that actual relevant part of the page, and a link back to the original. But yes, over two and a half decades of storing URLs with little context other than their place in a hierarchy of topics has led me to the conclusion that data on the internet is ephemeral. If you want to save it, copy it.

Semaphor 3y ago

I’m using only browser bookmarks, and only the always visible bookmark bar. I tried a few others, but the friction, any friction, is too much for me to consistently use them. And yeah, I use bookmarks a lot. For a few different purposes. First off, I almost never encounter dead links. That’s an absolute rarity and I can’t even remember when that last happened. That’s more for reddit/SO links. Some that I have as favicon only for regularly visited sites, but not regularly enough to have them as pinned tab. Following those, I have temporary bookmarks. That’s currently fantastic fiction as a reminder to myself to use it, that will probably be gone next year as I got used to using it. Then, folders. First is cooking stuff, from before I used a recipe manager. That’s around 100 bookmarks there that are categorized into subfolders. Music. Mostly YT vids that are not on Bandcamp where I have a wishlist. Usually use those for songrequests on twitch. Next is the voice folder, a long-term project of replacing alexa with something fully local, everything I researched or even just hardware sources. Sesotho, for information for learning the language. Only relevant when I’m actually studying something new there. 3 gaming folders for build inspiration from tabletop guides (WotR, Solasta, BG3; videogame guides are way too minmaxy for me) Following those are random links. I’m now roughly at 1/3rd to 1/2 of my window size, everything that follows is currently relevant stuff that I still want to lookup or make use of. New ones get added to the left. Once something falls into the overflow area, it’s probably irrelevant, but often I do get back to those links before that happens. So yeah, I love bookmarks.

ranting-moth 3y ago

I bookmark and tag a lot of stuff. It's come in handy multiple times. Even stuff I've read, if I remotely think I'll want to see it again, I bookmark and tag. I never manually go through my bookmarks, only search them. But they are a pointer back in history for me.

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