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Twin bonded ISDN lines were my only option for anything faster than 33.6k. “You too could have had 128k for the low monthly price of $250 + cost of two phone li

Twin bonded ISDN lines were my only option for anything faster than 33.6k. “You too could have had 128k for the low monthly price of $250 + cost of two phone lines + cost of equipment + labor”. When I finally moved to somewhere that had cable (and cable internet at 1.5mbps) I vowed never to return to the sticks. Then Elon came along… Starlink is probably one of the most useful inventions next to the lightbulb, DC current, Solar Cells, Toilets, desalination/ro and the WWW. I’ve gotten 100mb+ out in places where you have no cell service, no humans, no life, and no way of contacting anyone if in trouble. Starlink kept the connection no problem. I’m excited for the future if we can just get over our differences. XR, Starlink, EV’s, Highspeed rail, Electric planes, Mars…

the_third_wave 3y ago
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- smolder 3y ago
  While we're making suggestions: don't bring up "derangement syndrome" if you want to be taken seriously. You ironically used it in a sentence appealing for less polarization. The comment was fine without.
  - the_third_wave 3y ago
    Refusing to point out a problem does not make it disappear. I consider it clear as daylight that some people react irrationally to certain individuals whether those be Musk or Trump or anyone else. That phenomenon seems to be relatively new, e.g. in the times of Reagan there were many who clearly did not like the man but that never led to much more than "Ronald Raygun" and similar expressions and Bush - just as contentious - became "Shrub" but even then the reactions were not nearly as - to use a popular term - 'triggered' as they have become lately.
    - smolder 3y ago
      No, the meme is new. There is no new phenomenon deserving of such a term. Yes, I can point to ridiculous things people said about Trump and call it TDS. It's still just a cynical, myopic, partisan take on a subset of behavior from a subset of people, wrapped up in a cute term, meant to dehumanize the opposition. It's propaganda.
Aloha 3y ago
I just dont see how starlink makes money in the long term, without massive government subsidy like Iridium gets. Elon's seeming unwillingness to play nice with the federal government in regards to this harms Starlink's ongoing viability. Technically, it's a pretty neat trick - architecturally, it works just like any cellular network, except the power is moving, not the subscriber.
- charcircuit 3y ago
  The government has been trying to subsidize ISPs to expand broadband to more rural areas, but that has been a failure compared to Starlink which actually exists.
- inemesitaffia 3y ago
  The same government that refused to pay up until they had their arms twisted? The unwillingness is from the government
toast0 3y ago
> You too could have had 128k for the low monthly price of $250 + cost of two phone lines + cost of equipment + labor”. + per minute billing from your telco and your ISP.
- reactordev 3y ago
  Oh man, so true. $350 worth of internet hourly charges when my mother was livid and asked me what the hell I was doing all the time online running up a bill like that. I simply replied “Air Warrior 3”.
hinkley 3y ago
T1's were so mind numbingly expensive and ISDNs always seemed like a cheaper but insulting value. Same bandwidth as two modems, I ended up holding out for 'broadband' and making due with two phone lines for a few years.

the_third_wave 3y ago

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smolder 3y ago
While we're making suggestions: don't bring up "derangement syndrome" if you want to be taken seriously. You ironically used it in a sentence appealing for less polarization. The comment was fine without.
- the_third_wave 3y ago
  Refusing to point out a problem does not make it disappear. I consider it clear as daylight that some people react irrationally to certain individuals whether those be Musk or Trump or anyone else. That phenomenon seems to be relatively new, e.g. in the times of Reagan there were many who clearly did not like the man but that never led to much more than "Ronald Raygun" and similar expressions and Bush - just as contentious - became "Shrub" but even then the reactions were not nearly as - to use a popular term - 'triggered' as they have become lately.
  - smolder 3y ago
    No, the meme is new. There is no new phenomenon deserving of such a term. Yes, I can point to ridiculous things people said about Trump and call it TDS. It's still just a cynical, myopic, partisan take on a subset of behavior from a subset of people, wrapped up in a cute term, meant to dehumanize the opposition. It's propaganda.

Aloha 3y ago

I just dont see how starlink makes money in the long term, without massive government subsidy like Iridium gets. Elon's seeming unwillingness to play nice with the federal government in regards to this harms Starlink's ongoing viability. Technically, it's a pretty neat trick - architecturally, it works just like any cellular network, except the power is moving, not the subscriber.

charcircuit 3y ago
The government has been trying to subsidize ISPs to expand broadband to more rural areas, but that has been a failure compared to Starlink which actually exists.
inemesitaffia 3y ago
The same government that refused to pay up until they had their arms twisted? The unwillingness is from the government

toast0 3y ago

> You too could have had 128k for the low monthly price of $250 + cost of two phone lines + cost of equipment + labor”. + per minute billing from your telco and your ISP.

reactordev 3y ago
Oh man, so true. $350 worth of internet hourly charges when my mother was livid and asked me what the hell I was doing all the time online running up a bill like that. I simply replied “Air Warrior 3”.

hinkley 3y ago

T1's were so mind numbingly expensive and ISDNs always seemed like a cheaper but insulting value. Same bandwidth as two modems, I ended up holding out for 'broadband' and making due with two phone lines for a few years.