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Wait so this actually implements everything? Like all the features? System recs are quite high, I was hoping to find something that my kids can use on their Chr

Wait so this actually implements everything? Like all the features? System recs are quite high, I was hoping to find something that my kids can use on their Chromebooks but even if this isn’t it, this is cool as heck.

rollcat 3y ago
If you're on a low end system, I can recommend Minetest. It's a similar but different experience - you still mine blocks and craft items but all of the details are quite different. I enjoy both games; while I prefer Minecraft due to community and momentum, Minetest is great if you just want a nice and simple sandbox.
- em-bee 3y ago
  minetest has lots of great mods or extensions that add interesting features, like trains. there are also public servers, some of which have very friendly communities.
- laxd 3y ago
  Minetest is a prime example of the weakness of the open source community. A bunch of people want to "system dev" you a framework. Very few want, or is capabale of, designing you an actual finished game, at least in the open source context. Op's kid deserve better. The best I can suggest is 0AD. https://play0ad.com/ https://play0ad.com/ It might require an actual computer though.
  - jahsome 3y ago
    I suspect you don't have kids? Either way that is a hilarious recommendation, for a number of reasons. If my kids asked to play Minecraft and I installed that game, it would be a bit like them asking for pancakes and serving them bran flakes and a grapefruit. They're not even remotely similar games, and have wildly different levels of appropriateness for children -- though that obviously depends on parental preference. In any case, there's not even a slight their friends are playing it, and that is probably the most important factor for most kids.
    - rpdillon 3y ago
      FWIW, my 5th grader read this comment and got actively agitated at the comparison. He adores Minetest and wanted to convey that he "has a great community to play with". Of course YMMV, but I thought his take was worth mentioning.
      - jahsome 3y ago
        Just in case my comment wasn't clear: I think Minetest -> Minecraft is at least a fair comparison, even if there are some glaring omissions in Minetest. My bran flakes -> pancakes statement wasn't referring to Minetest. I was referring to the Age of Empires clone the parent comment recommended instead of Minetest. P.S. Kudos to the young one for being open minded and independent about alternatives in the face of heavily-marketed-and-heavily-peer-used things! I can tell they're already wise beyond their years =)
  - rollcat 3y ago
    If we're discussing viability of Minecraft on lower-end hardware, jumping from the voxel sandbox genre into the RTS genre (especially as you point out higher hardware requirements) is quite a stretch. Minetest is as much of an alternative to Minecraft as Linux is an alternative to Windows. It works for some people, it won't work for most. It's less polished, requires some assembly (choosing a modpack), etc. They're quite obviously different games (as I pointed out already). But you don't need a degree in computer science, it's just a game. You can click on "new world" and start exploring and building. What most people comparing the two seem to forget about, is just how much of a shitshow Minecraft modding is - and you don't really want to run the game without mods like sodium+lithium or optifine, because of how horribly unoptimized it is. I definitely prefer the Minecraft experience overall, but the game would've been completely unplayable on M1 Macs without tremendous community effort, whereas Minetest runs smoothly on a 12yro laptop with zero tweaking.
- mauvia 3y ago
  Adding to the minetest suggestion, it's actually an engine for other minecraft clones, and I believe there's a specific entry called Mineclone that is built to be feature-aligned with Minecraft directly. I haven't played it but it seems pretty up to date.
brucethemoose2 3y ago
Minecraft Java runs on a toaster with performance mods. Another small thing you can do is run a "fast" JDK like Graal EE.
- laxd 3y ago
  Right, have you tried to port all the C++ libraries to your toaster?
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    An x86 or ARM OpenGL toaster then :P
lostmsu 3y ago
Have you considered cloud gaming? Some self-ad: https://borg.games https://borg.games
1317 3y ago
I haven't tried it myself, but it looks like the bedrock edition can run on chrome OS. I think https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mojang.minecraftpe https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mojang.min... is the link, though it says "Chrome OS version sold separately" so I'm not 100% sure
- Teckla 3y ago
  It works. I play Bedrock Minecraft on my Chromebook frequently. No issues.
mainpassathome 3y ago
on low end devices i’d recommend installing the Prism Launcher [1] with the Fabulously Optimized modpack [2] 1 https://prismlauncher.org/ https://prismlauncher.org/ 2 https://wiki.download.fo/readme/install-instructions#prism-launcher https://wiki.download.fo/readme/install-instructions#prism-l... p.s. i think there’s a way to install linux apps on chromeos now? but if you can’t, there’s pojav launcher which is made for android so has an apk
binkHN 3y ago
I've had a good success running the Java version of Minecraft in the Linux environment of ChromeOS.
madduci 3y ago
A nice addition would be starting a local Minecraft server and start the game for offline play, without any account, similar to UltiMC Launcher
Kiuhrly1 3y ago
I think I've seen a Minecraft client reimplementation that runs in the browser, can't remember what it's called though

rollcat 3y ago

If you're on a low end system, I can recommend Minetest. It's a similar but different experience - you still mine blocks and craft items but all of the details are quite different. I enjoy both games; while I prefer Minecraft due to community and momentum, Minetest is great if you just want a nice and simple sandbox.

em-bee 3y ago
minetest has lots of great mods or extensions that add interesting features, like trains. there are also public servers, some of which have very friendly communities.
laxd 3y ago
Minetest is a prime example of the weakness of the open source community. A bunch of people want to "system dev" you a framework. Very few want, or is capabale of, designing you an actual finished game, at least in the open source context. Op's kid deserve better. The best I can suggest is 0AD. https://play0ad.com/ https://play0ad.com/ It might require an actual computer though.
- jahsome 3y ago
  I suspect you don't have kids? Either way that is a hilarious recommendation, for a number of reasons. If my kids asked to play Minecraft and I installed that game, it would be a bit like them asking for pancakes and serving them bran flakes and a grapefruit. They're not even remotely similar games, and have wildly different levels of appropriateness for children -- though that obviously depends on parental preference. In any case, there's not even a slight their friends are playing it, and that is probably the most important factor for most kids.
  - rpdillon 3y ago
    FWIW, my 5th grader read this comment and got actively agitated at the comparison. He adores Minetest and wanted to convey that he "has a great community to play with". Of course YMMV, but I thought his take was worth mentioning.
    - jahsome 3y ago
      Just in case my comment wasn't clear: I think Minetest -> Minecraft is at least a fair comparison, even if there are some glaring omissions in Minetest. My bran flakes -> pancakes statement wasn't referring to Minetest. I was referring to the Age of Empires clone the parent comment recommended instead of Minetest. P.S. Kudos to the young one for being open minded and independent about alternatives in the face of heavily-marketed-and-heavily-peer-used things! I can tell they're already wise beyond their years =)
- rollcat 3y ago
  If we're discussing viability of Minecraft on lower-end hardware, jumping from the voxel sandbox genre into the RTS genre (especially as you point out higher hardware requirements) is quite a stretch. Minetest is as much of an alternative to Minecraft as Linux is an alternative to Windows. It works for some people, it won't work for most. It's less polished, requires some assembly (choosing a modpack), etc. They're quite obviously different games (as I pointed out already). But you don't need a degree in computer science, it's just a game. You can click on "new world" and start exploring and building. What most people comparing the two seem to forget about, is just how much of a shitshow Minecraft modding is - and you don't really want to run the game without mods like sodium+lithium or optifine, because of how horribly unoptimized it is. I definitely prefer the Minecraft experience overall, but the game would've been completely unplayable on M1 Macs without tremendous community effort, whereas Minetest runs smoothly on a 12yro laptop with zero tweaking.
mauvia 3y ago
Adding to the minetest suggestion, it's actually an engine for other minecraft clones, and I believe there's a specific entry called Mineclone that is built to be feature-aligned with Minecraft directly. I haven't played it but it seems pretty up to date.

brucethemoose2 3y ago

Minecraft Java runs on a toaster with performance mods. Another small thing you can do is run a "fast" JDK like Graal EE.

laxd 3y ago
Right, have you tried to port all the C++ libraries to your toaster?
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  An x86 or ARM OpenGL toaster then :P

lostmsu 3y ago

Have you considered cloud gaming? Some self-ad: https://borg.games https://borg.games

1317 3y ago

I haven't tried it myself, but it looks like the bedrock edition can run on chrome OS. I think https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mojang.minecraftpe https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mojang.min... is the link, though it says "Chrome OS version sold separately" so I'm not 100% sure

Teckla 3y ago
It works. I play Bedrock Minecraft on my Chromebook frequently. No issues.

mainpassathome 3y ago

on low end devices i’d recommend installing the Prism Launcher [1] with the Fabulously Optimized modpack [2] 1 https://prismlauncher.org/ https://prismlauncher.org/ 2 https://wiki.download.fo/readme/install-instructions#prism-launcher https://wiki.download.fo/readme/install-instructions#prism-l... p.s. i think there’s a way to install linux apps on chromeos now? but if you can’t, there’s pojav launcher which is made for android so has an apk

binkHN 3y ago

I've had a good success running the Java version of Minecraft in the Linux environment of ChromeOS.

madduci 3y ago

A nice addition would be starting a local Minecraft server and start the game for offline play, without any account, similar to UltiMC Launcher

Kiuhrly1 3y ago

I think I've seen a Minecraft client reimplementation that runs in the browser, can't remember what it's called though