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A 2TB drive is what, 8-10 AAA games? More drive slots is always better.

by Arainach 3y ago

smcleod 3y ago
Or 1 or 2 electron apps
- dylan604 3y ago
  wait, i thought we were talking about SSDs not RAM /s
Comfy-Tinwork 3y ago
~50GB per game, so 40.
- godelski 3y ago
  I recently installed Starfield and it's over 100GB. I'm not a big gamer, but I understand this is becoming increasingly common. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/
- Retric 3y ago
  Recently it’s gotten worse than that, a 2TB disk has about 1,820GB of usable space STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor starts at 155 GB but you need over 100GB on top of that for patches etc, don’t be surprised if your game folder hits 240 GB. Baldur's Gate 3: lists 150 GB as minimum disk space required. Cyberpunk 2077 starts at 70 GB but the expansion is supposedly another 32GB and counting. Alan Wake 2: 90GB disk space Going forward it’s only getting worse.
teaearlgraycold 3y ago
Seriously - who’s installing even 5 of those big games concurrently? I uninstall games pretty readily.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >who’s installing even 5 of those big games concurrently? Gamers?
- Sanzig 3y ago
  Depends on your internet connection. If you have gigabit fibre to the home, downloading a big AAA game isn't a big deal. If you're on a 30 Mbit cable connection, the delay between starting a download and playing a game is pretty long, so it's nice to be able to keep them on your local storage.
- 1123581321 3y ago
  Your approach is atypical. Most don’t uninstall unless they’re upset with the game or space is running low.
- Arainach 3y ago
  With ISP data caps, redownloading them isn't free.
  - imran0 3y ago
    I don't understand data caps, is it a US thing?
    - askiiart 3y ago
      It's a US thing, but it depends on your ISP. I have Spectrum, which doesn't have data caps, but Xfinity/Comcast caps you at 1.2TB/month, charging $10/50GB after that, or am alternativse, more expensive unlimited plan.
internet101010 3y ago
Not if you can't use them. The problem with modern PCs is lack of pcie lanes. Unless you go with Threadripper you pretty much get one GPU, two m.2 drives and one pci slot. After that decisions have to be made on what gets disabled.
- godelski 3y ago
  I'm no expert here, but isn't this the number of lanes used at one time? If my understanding is correct, then generally more slots should still be better. Sure, maybe you can't write to 30 drives at the same time but who's actually doing that? You're probably reading from no more than 2 drives __at a time__. So 4 lanes per M.2 + a graphics card at 16 lanes gives you 22. Your $600 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X has 28 lanes but 22 are usable. So that of course doesn't leave you with extra lanes for other things, but that's not high end. Threadrippers have >80 lanes so... Am I misunderstanding something?
  - Laforet 3y ago
    Support for PCI-E bifurcation on consumer motherboards was really good for a while when PCI-E 4.0 first came out, however it has since regressed again. Not many motherboards in the latest gen can do a proper x8+x4+x4 split. They may claim to support it but you run into weird issues has to spend weeks waiting for a bios fix. Or sometimes the support might be there but it is so poorly explained in the manual that I had to actually test it on hand to make sure that I was reading it correctly. To be fair, HEDT motherboards are not immune to this type of stupidity. However they do manage to get over these issues with the sheer number of lanes.
  - wtallis 3y ago
    AMD's mainstream desktop platform effectively has four more PCIe lanes coming out of the CPU socket than Intel's mainstream desktop platform. Both then have a variable number of PCIe lanes fanned out from the chipset and sharing that chipset's uplink to the CPU. (Intel has a range of chipsets with different number of lanes enabled, and AMD's more expensive chipset solution is to daisy-chain a second chipset).
- 3y ago

A 2TB drive is what, 8-10 AAA games? More drive slots is always better.

smcleod 3y ago

Or 1 or 2 electron apps

dylan604 3y ago
wait, i thought we were talking about SSDs not RAM /s

Comfy-Tinwork 3y ago

~50GB per game, so 40.

godelski 3y ago
I recently installed Starfield and it's over 100GB. I'm not a big gamer, but I understand this is becoming increasingly common. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/
Retric 3y ago
Recently it’s gotten worse than that, a 2TB disk has about 1,820GB of usable space STAR WARS Jedi: Survivor starts at 155 GB but you need over 100GB on top of that for patches etc, don’t be surprised if your game folder hits 240 GB. Baldur's Gate 3: lists 150 GB as minimum disk space required. Cyberpunk 2077 starts at 70 GB but the expansion is supposedly another 32GB and counting. Alan Wake 2: 90GB disk space Going forward it’s only getting worse.

teaearlgraycold 3y ago

Seriously - who’s installing even 5 of those big games concurrently? I uninstall games pretty readily.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>who’s installing even 5 of those big games concurrently? Gamers?
Sanzig 3y ago
Depends on your internet connection. If you have gigabit fibre to the home, downloading a big AAA game isn't a big deal. If you're on a 30 Mbit cable connection, the delay between starting a download and playing a game is pretty long, so it's nice to be able to keep them on your local storage.
1123581321 3y ago
Your approach is atypical. Most don’t uninstall unless they’re upset with the game or space is running low.
Arainach 3y ago
With ISP data caps, redownloading them isn't free.
- imran0 3y ago
  I don't understand data caps, is it a US thing?
  - askiiart 3y ago
    It's a US thing, but it depends on your ISP. I have Spectrum, which doesn't have data caps, but Xfinity/Comcast caps you at 1.2TB/month, charging $10/50GB after that, or am alternativse, more expensive unlimited plan.

internet101010 3y ago

Not if you can't use them. The problem with modern PCs is lack of pcie lanes. Unless you go with Threadripper you pretty much get one GPU, two m.2 drives and one pci slot. After that decisions have to be made on what gets disabled.

godelski 3y ago
I'm no expert here, but isn't this the number of lanes used at one time? If my understanding is correct, then generally more slots should still be better. Sure, maybe you can't write to 30 drives at the same time but who's actually doing that? You're probably reading from no more than 2 drives __at a time__. So 4 lanes per M.2 + a graphics card at 16 lanes gives you 22. Your $600 AMD Ryzen 9 7950X has 28 lanes but 22 are usable. So that of course doesn't leave you with extra lanes for other things, but that's not high end. Threadrippers have >80 lanes so... Am I misunderstanding something?
- Laforet 3y ago
  Support for PCI-E bifurcation on consumer motherboards was really good for a while when PCI-E 4.0 first came out, however it has since regressed again. Not many motherboards in the latest gen can do a proper x8+x4+x4 split. They may claim to support it but you run into weird issues has to spend weeks waiting for a bios fix. Or sometimes the support might be there but it is so poorly explained in the manual that I had to actually test it on hand to make sure that I was reading it correctly. To be fair, HEDT motherboards are not immune to this type of stupidity. However they do manage to get over these issues with the sheer number of lanes.
- wtallis 3y ago
  AMD's mainstream desktop platform effectively has four more PCIe lanes coming out of the CPU socket than Intel's mainstream desktop platform. Both then have a variable number of PCIe lanes fanned out from the chipset and sharing that chipset's uplink to the CPU. (Intel has a range of chipsets with different number of lanes enabled, and AMD's more expensive chipset solution is to daisy-chain a second chipset).
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