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Mail-in-a-Box: a mail server in a box
- dmitrygr 3y agoUh huh. And what percent of the mail you send will be silently dropped by gmail (not even spam folder)? Sadly that game is lost.
- compilator1 3y agoNone, if apropriate relays used. Mailchannels or mail.baby for example. The game is never lost if there is active gamers.
- beeboobaa 3y agoSo you go through the effort of setting up your own mail server only to send all your outgoing email through a third party? Why even bother at that point?
- SoftTalker 3y agoThere's value in running your own inbound server. Some of the big services will silently drop "spam" into the bitbucket. It's just gone. I've had this happen on Microsoft 365 accounts. By running your own server you can deal with spam as you see fit. I get very little so I deal with it using the "delete" function in my MUA.
- kevincox 3y agoPersonally I do it because most of the services I tried were dropping mail that I cared about. No amount of "whitelisting" with their provided tools would prevent this. Almost all big inbox providers perform a very early filtering step before even considering user rules and filters. But I don't want to bother with outbound reputation so I still use relays to send messages.
- ttul 3y agoYou can use MailChannels for free via Cloudflare and there are no volume limits.
- duckmysick 3y agoHow can I use relays with Mail-in-a-Box? I couldn't find anything on their install instructions.
- upofadown 3y agoYes, sure, Gmail sucks. There is no sense in losing a lot of sleep over it.
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- danbtl 3y agoThe game is certainly not lost. There are many of us running their own mail servers. Gmail will accept mail from your domain if you don't send spam. You should try it.
- dmitrygr 3y agoI have. that is why i say the game is lost.
- zoky 3y agoThen either you didn’t configure your server correctly or you were trying to run a server on an IP address that’s part of a blacklisted netblock (e.g. residential). I’ve had a mail server in colo for over a decade, and I even recently had to change IP addresses on that server, and I’ve had zero deliverability issues. Set up SPF, DKIM, and reverse DNS, and obviously don’t do anything stupid like send spam or leave an open relay, and you should be fine.
- drdaeman 3y ago> Then either you didn’t configure your server correctly or you were trying to run a server on an IP address that’s part of a blacklisted netblock (e.g. residential). This is frequently the case but not always. Sometimes you don't have any server issues, and originating IP is totally fine, but your messages are 250-accepted then somehow just disappear into the void without reaching the recipient mailbox (not even the "spam" folder). Fortunately, it's rare (in my experience), but super annoying when this happens, because with FAANGs there's absolutely no way to reach out for any technical support (unless you know someone who works there and they can help you).
- dmitrygr 3y agoThis is what killed me.
- jeroenhd 3y agoGmail generally works fine. Outlook works too most of the time. "Outlook Enterprise" is a mess that refuses email for no good reason. Sometimes it's because Microsoft's DNS resolvers are broken (and can't validate SPF/DKIM), sometimes it's because the mail server rewrites message headers and then tries to validate the signature (which fails, obviously).
- askiiart 3y agoThe game is far from lost. You need to be able to set PTR, which you can do by sending from a cheap VPS, otherwise basically everything will block you as spam. Other than that, it's not too exclusive, for lack of a better word.
- kiney 3y agoI been running my own mailserver for ~two decades. Never had much deliverability problems and none at all with google. Outlook sometimes is a problem but I always got it fixed. Nowadays I user docker-mailserver which is a bit more low level than mail in a box but much easier to setup than everything from scratch
- _cenw 3y agoIs that two decades on the same IP space?
- KronisLV 3y ago> Nowadays I user docker-mailserver which is a bit more low level than mail in a box but much easier to setup than everything from scratch Can second that this is some wonderful software, easy to get started with, nicely documented and works without any significant issues: https://docker-mailserver.github.io/docker-mailserver/latest/ https://docker-mailserver.github.io/docker-mailserver/latest...
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- sgt 3y agoFearmongering.. I have been running my own mail server since 1999. No deliverability issues that I can recall.
- dvko 3y agoHave been running Mailinabox since 2018 on a €5 VPS. 0 issues with email deliverability. Or anything really. It just works.
- cherryteastain 3y agoI recently set up my mail server using docker-mailserver and I can send stuff to gmail and outlook no problem. Just have to follow instructions and set up DKIM, SPF and PTR records properly.
- ajosh 3y agoFWIW, I use MIAB and my e-mails aren't dropped regularly from what I can tell. Before this, I was using a mix of CPanel and gmail but for a variety of reasons, I wanted to take greater control of my e-mail. I signed up with a small VPS/hosting provider that offered a decent amount of storage space with their VMs. I don't send spam and have maintained the domain name for a lot of years. I checked the IP for blacklists before migrating the domain to it. I may have had to e-mail one blacklist provider about being removed but if I did, I don't remember it. Since MIAB sets up DKIM and SPF, your deliverability is pretty good out of the box. I don't send spam and so I think the IP's reputation has been getting better and better over the last few years. The truth is that for personal e-mail, the majority of messages are inbound and that's really not a problem.
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- llamaInSouth 3y agogoal: "Not make a totally unhackable, NSA-proof server." who in their right mind would say something like this?
- tetrisgm 3y agoSomeone who understands they can't make a small email server project that can resist a state-scale adversary,and won't bother with people arguing for that level of privacy.
- NBJack 3y agoSomebody being honest? Would you prefer they lie and say the opposite? Or just let the target audience assume otherwise? Most folks I've seen do this put such a statement (in the postive) under "non-goals".
- llamaInSouth 3y agoeveryone already knows this though.... Ive never seen any software with zero bugs... maybe he is trying to bring awareness to the fact that programmers suck
- mcosta 3y agoI guess this kind of projects attracts some paranoid "nsa is spying me" kind.
- llamaInSouth 3y agoso whats your point? are you talking about me? I know the us gov. is spying on me, but I also know that they dont care because there is nothing interesting once in a while I send them dick pics
- ajosh 3y agoIf my memory serves the project started around the time of a popular blog post called NSA-Proof Your E-mail[1]. It may have been Josh's inspiration for the project, I'm not sure. In any event, the techniques described are pretty standard mail hosting and so MAIB's techniques are pretty much the same. I think it's just saying that while it does improve some things, it's not going to be what that blog post promised. [1] https://medium.com/@cyberpunk_networks/nsa-proof-your-email-2017-edition-f11a89697722 https://medium.com/@cyberpunk_networks/nsa-proof-your-email-...
- abdullahkhalids 3y agoI have been running mailinabox with a hetzner server for 2-3 years now. - Setup was largely painless. Main problem was making sure dns settings at my domain registrar were correct. - Almost zero problems with mail delivery on the big providers [1]. Last time my email was dropped was by amd.com. - Last year had to do a major version upgrade to mailinabox and it was a huge hassle. I think they need to improve on this. Rolling updates are painless. Here is my advice to people who are on the threshold of wanting to host their own email, but are unsure because of mail delivery issues. Well, there are zero problems with incoming mail. So setup mailinabox and use that email to register for websites [2]. Use it for all your mailing lists etc. Do it for a few years and see how it feels. Occasionally send out email. If enough people do it, then over time it will become easier for more people to host their own email. [1] I have a theory that I deployed. I asked a whole bunch of people with gmail/hotmail email addresses to send me emails first on my new email. I then replied to them. I think this ensured that from that start I was put on the good lists. [2] Use websitename@yourdomain.come to register. Easy to block spam this way.
- jjav 3y ago> Do it for a few years and see how it feels. A thousand times this! Everyone even remotely technical or interested in tech should run their own mail server. For anyone too young to have known, this is how it used to be. Email was desktop (workstation) to desktop. Even when working at large corporations in the 90s, email arrived and was sent to the world directly from my personal workstation. For anyone worried about deliverability, keep in mind you can outsource the delivery part while still running your own email server for incoming email. I have experimented with using mailjet as an outgoing relay, for low volumes it was (maybe still?) free. I don't use a relay though, I deliver everything directly. But you don't have to if you worry about delivery. Why would you do this? For one thing, as parent post says, it gets you used to running the server. But much more importantly, it gives you complete control of incoming email. Never again is there any chance of google/yahoo/microsoft locking you out of receiving important emails (account resets, bank statements, etc) when you own the receiving server. Over time you can start relaxing the relaying and deliver directly to most places, only keep the relay to those who give you trouble coughmicrosoftcough. Or keep the outgoing relay forever if you prefer, but still reap all the benefits of owning the receiving side which is arguably more important.
- gwbrooks 3y agoUsed MIAB for years -- one install, about 20 domains, most low volume but 1-2 sending tens of thousands of emails a month. Some notes: * Every thread that mentions hosting your own email brings out the it's-pointless-do-do-your-own-mail zealots; ignore them. If you're interested in trying it, try it. * The only deliverability issues I ever had were with ATT networks because they don't use modern TLS; that was fixable. Mail to Google? Goes through, doesn't go into spam. Mail to Microsoft? Ditto. And this is on a Digital Ocean VM, which isn't the most reputable IP pool in the world. * MIAB will happily be your full-fledged authoritative DNS server. Although I've since migrated to separating DNS from mail hosting, it was very convenient for a long time. * Setup is dirt simple. And you get MTA-STS as well as DANE/DNSSEC right out of the box. * The backup function worked without issue the one time I needed it. I'm sufficiently paranoid that I also do regular snapshots of the whole VM. * There's a fork, Power Mail In A Box, that updates the UI, adds the ability to plug in relayhost settings, and does a few other nice things. It hasn't been updated in about a year, but was similarly solid. My only quibble with MIAB, and the reason I migrated to Mailcow recently, is that I wanted to easily set up per-domain relay settings from the UI.
- brightball 3y agoTo echo this, IP reputations update every few months. You may just need to buy and hold to clean it up.
- eurekin 3y agoI'm on the fence. I wanted to do a super simple app hosting service on the Odroid SBC. I have few services running, but two of them: Authelia and Gitea need smtp for some actually valid reason. Would you recommend hosting for that use case?
- gwbrooks 3y agoIf all I needed was SMTP? I'd likely just use Amazon SES or Mailgun. I know some folks have concerns with the privacy of that(1), and really want to run their own SMTP. If that's the case, Mail In A Box can do the job, or you can go with a pure SMTP solution like https://github.com/ix-ai/smtp https://github.com/ix-ai/smtp (not endorsing it -- it's just been on my radar) or a roll-your-own Postfix/Exim solution. The latter requires almost zero resources after it's set up; slap it on a $20/year VM and you're done. 1. Chasing privacy with email is a chimera. If you really want private communications, email is not the tool.
- zaps 3y agoA gift real special / so take off the top / Take a look inside / it's my mail in a box
- dingdingdang 3y agoAh, Lonely Island ... been years since anything that good/hilarious came out!
- forwardemail 3y agoIncluded in our comparison list here https://forwardemail.net/en/open-source/linux-email-server#email-server-comparison https://forwardemail.net/en/open-source/linux-email-server#e...
- codetrotter 3y agoI think having “encrypted SQLite” as a column is a bit too specific, and biased to favor your own product in the comparison. I think a more fair column would be “encrypted at rest” – even if it comes out that your own solution is the only one that ends up with a green check mark.
- forwardemail 3y agoWe also thought of renaming it to "Mailboxes Encrypted Individually". We really wanted to make it clear that each individual mailbox is encrypted. Any other suggestions?
- robertlagrant 3y agoWhy does that matter? As in if I as a user have three mailboxes, they're encrypted individually? Or each customer has their mail encrypted separately to other customers? I think the latter is worth mentioning more than the former (though if you're doing the former you're of course doing the latter also).
- forwardemail 3y agoCorrect, the former. There are no other open-source email servers (or closed even) that does the former that we know of. The deep-dive write-up is here if you want to read more https://forwardemail.net/encrypted-email https://forwardemail.net/encrypted-email. Edit: It matters because if someone has access to the filesystem, or our MongoDB database, then they still can't read/write to your email mailbox because they don't have your IMAP password (which we only show to you _once_ for 30 seconds and render in-memory). We use ChaCha20-Poly1305 encryption on the SQLite mailboxes (which is generally considered quantum-secure[0]). Passwords are generated[1] via Node.js `crypto.pbkdf2`. [0]: https://crypto.stackexchange.com/a/90311 https://crypto.stackexchange.com/a/90311 [1]: https://github.com/forwardemail/forwardemail.net/blob/d537fcee6aff81f17f5a1bc492c0edc93b2d53d1/helpers/create-password.js#L18-L35 https://github.com/forwardemail/forwardemail.net/blob/d537fc...
- gauravphoenix 3y agoOn a somewhat different note, I have been using iCloud custom domain hosting feature. The spam filtering is horrendous. Anyone else has this problem? I am tired of checking the spam folder everyday and I find legitimate emails almost 2-3 days a week. Of course, I click on not-spam but I think Apple's servers just don't learn very well (maybe due to focus on privacy?)
- tailspin2019 3y agoI’ve definitely seen an increase in Spam filtering issues on iCloud. I recently emailed a new contact for the first time and their reply to my email went into the Junk folder. How does that happen? This last week I’ve had two other emails from people that I’ve corresponded with for years go into Junk. Given how poor iCloud Webmail is - to the degree that it looks like Apple simply doesn’t care about it as a product… at all… I’m not surprised if the internals are being neglected too. I’ll be moving everything off iCloud very soon.
- gauravphoenix 3y agoWhere are you moving off to?
- tailspin2019 3y agoStill undecided but I’m leaning towards Protonmail
- throw0101b 3y agoSee also "Welcome to ISPmail – a guide to your own mail server", which is based on Debian: * https://workaround.org https://workaround.org * https://workaround.org/ispmail-bookworm/ https://workaround.org/ispmail-bookworm/ Ansible playbook(s) available: * https://github.com/Signum/ispmail-bookworm-ansible https://github.com/Signum/ispmail-bookworm-ansible
- Kirce 3y agoISPmail/workaround.org is how I got serious with self hosting my emails 10/15? years ago. Really good starting ressource if you want to know how all the internals of a mailserver work
- blkhawk 3y agoI JUST finished my server migration 2 days ago. Because the configuration was such a hassle I just duplicated my setup. Why wasn't this posted like 2 months ago when I started? I could have tried this so easily on the new server before moving from the old one. I am using a traditional provider as "frontend SMTP". Decided against doing my own because I need to send and receive emails for job hunting atm.
- fevangelou 3y agoI'd say Mail-in-a-Box, along with Modoboa and iRedMail, are perhaps the only serious open source email server setups right now, that are not based on Docker. Commercial ones do exist in the form of cPanel and Plesk (if you need some sort of support), although the underlying software is pretty much the same. The only downside with MiaB is it is unnecessary complicated to update (both the software AND the server OS). This shouldn't be too hard to address in the future... References: https://modoboa.org/en/ https://modoboa.org/en/ https://www.iredmail.org/ https://www.iredmail.org/
- oriettaxx 3y agoiredmail (free version) is useless, so expect to pay I use Ispconfig they are both ordinary stuff, very very old style (these all should be in docker swarm nowadays) Ah, a great modern tool in front of ispconfig is proxmox mail gateway
- nanna 3y agoFree iredmail makes updating extremely labourious. You have to manually update every package to each version step by step. It's a nightmare which is why the paid for version exists. I'm not opposed to paying but beware what you get yourself into.
- jboynyc 3y agoThere's also simple-nixos-mailserver: https://gitlab.com/simple-nixos-mailserver/nixos-mailserver https://gitlab.com/simple-nixos-mailserver/nixos-mailserver
- nikolay 3y agoI've been using Mail-in-a-box for years, until suddenly it wouldn't upgrade anymore. And I ended up having a defunct server.
- V__ 3y agoAlso worth a mention: mailcow, really painless setup and update process.
- Avamander 3y agoAt this point Stalwart and rspamd two combined will most likely offer a better experience. In terms of supporting modern standards, security and offering enough configurability without requiring arcane knowledge. You can get a good setup with way less effort and fragile components. The hodgepodge of software used by MIB is just not good any more.
- snorremd 3y agoAlso Stalwart Mail supports JMAP which is a nice protocol. Not sure how many email clients support it yet though. If I were to host my own mail I'd probably go with Stalwart as it provides a single binary/service for running imap, jmap, smtp, etc. No need to fiddle around with Postfix, Dovecot, etc.
- eminence32 3y agoDoes anyone have a recommendation about where to host an internet-facing mail server? I've been running my own mail server on various VSPs (digital ocean and linode), but sending email is not quite as reliable as I'd like it to be. Are there different hosts I could try? Or am I better off paying for something like fastmail and using them as a smarthost?
- oynqr 3y agoHosting on Hetzner Falkenstein since 2015 with zero deliverability issues.
- dqv 3y agoN.B. this may only work with hosts that don't use UCEProtect and, honestly, if they're legit, they won't use UCEProtect I have two email servers running on Digital Ocean just fine - one set up in 2016 and one set up in 2021. It's a matter of doing the initial work to deal with the rejections - following the process the various hosts have set up. There will be a few block lists that you need to submit tickets to to have your IP unblocked. You'll want to create bulk sender accounts (even if you're not) with Yahoo, Microsoft, and Google. It's mostly superstition - "may this web form bring blessings upon my IP". Don't bother actually trying to check any of the reports in the UIs - only Yahoo sends emails to abuse@ for spam reports for small senders. You'll want to join the Mailop list [0]. I'd say it takes about a month or two, mostly spent waiting, before you are in the clear and have perfect deliverability. Yes, it's annoying. Yes, it can feel hopeless. But it clears up pretty quickly. I've only since had problems with smaller providers and it usually gets resolved by contacting them. [0]: https://www.mailop.org/ https://www.mailop.org/ - I think people who work at Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft all monitor this list
- zcdziura 3y agoI host my own mail server on Vultr. One thing to note if you want to use them is that, by default, they block outgoing SMTP ports by default. You have to file a support ticket to unlock that port for your account, and you need to have a server running under your account on their infrastructure for at least a month before they'll unblock the port. It's a bit annoying, but they do it to prevent people from using their infrastructure to send spam. And you only ever have to do it once.
- sammyjoe72 3y agoI ran a miab for about 5 years, maybe around 2018, I also actively tried to do extra things that would improve delivery, including registering postmaster accounts on the various postmaster whitelist tools etc in order to increase the chances my mail would be delivered. Unfortunately if you host your mail on linode/digital ocean, you will eventually be blocked, and mst of your email will end up in spam folders. This year after 13 years of running my own mail services, I finally gave up, I was sending emails and then sending followup “did you get my email” messages from gmail
- johnklos 3y ago"linode/digital ocean" So you know your own problem. Just find anyone else, or smarthost through a good provider.
- jwr 3y agoDon't believe the armchair scare-mongering "experts" that will undoubtedly tell you in these comments that no big provider will receive E-mail from you. I've been running my own mail servers for the last, well, 25 years or so. It's fine, if you get your own IP, don't get unlucky by inheriting one after a known spammer, and just keep a clean server. Don't let other scare you into "having to use" Gmail or other huge ad-tech E-mail providers. That's not what the Internet was designed for.
- davidy123 3y agoSame here, but for 30 years. It's really no trouble.
- type_Ben_struct 3y agoIt largely depends on where you’re hosting your mail server. Certain providers (e.g. Digital Ocean) are a complete no-go. Their IP ranges are completely untrusted.
- PuffinBlue 3y agoDigitalOcean blocks port 25 now anyway[0], since I think June this year, for all new accounts. So not really a viable option now. We have to relay email from our servers there. Bit annoying, and no support won't make an exception or turn it off after a bit of good behaviour. [0] https://docs.digitalocean.com/support/why-is-smtp-blocked/ https://docs.digitalocean.com/support/why-is-smtp-blocked/
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- drpixie 3y agoSimilar. It's been a good experience and no more or less successful than gmail. I've had a couple of delivery hassles (easily fixed) but plenty of stuff gets lost in gmail's or outlook's filters. So at the end of the say, not much difference in usability, but much more interesting :) I've been using mailinabox and it goes to a lot of trouble to provide correct DKIM etc, which I'm sure helps avoid deliverability problems. (Thanks Josh.)
- rafaelturk 3y agoI'm looking for SES alternative in a box, I wish I could send my own emails no need to manage inbox, just send.
- tamimio 3y agoIt’s all fun and games until you lose big client email offer because MS outlook decided to mark yours as a spam.. not a scare tactic but a warning that if you do that, make sure you have parallel communication channels with whoever your communicating with, just in case.
- type_Ben_struct 3y agoI’ve used both and personally prefer https://mailcow.email/ https://mailcow.email/
- ill0gicity 3y agoI've been using Mailu (https://mailu.io/ https://mailu.io/) for years and have had no problems. I love that it has the concept of domain admins so that people can manage mailboxes for their own domains. DNS isn't automatic, but meh. Upgrading is easy (Docker + automatic migrations).
- BLKNSLVR 3y agoAnother happy mailu admin here. Although the domains aren't well used or critically important to day to day things.
- pdntspa 3y agoDoes it really need to install Nextcloud just to do DAV? That just seems like overkill.
- rtuin 3y agoI've been using mail in a box since 2016 for a handful of personal domains. It's easy to setup and very low maintenance. Backups are solid too. Just make sure your hosting package/provider allows and supports self-hosted mail. PTR dns records specifically as without your mail might work but much ends up in spam boxes. The mail in a box setup guide covers this too.
- mfashby 3y agoI've been using maddy.email running quietly on my RPi for a couple of years now. I think it's 'simpler' than mail-in-a-box because it implements IMAP, SMTP, all in one server which can be backed by a database, instead of managing installation and updates of many different programs. It also does DKIM automatically and uses ACME/LetsEncrypt to automate certificate management. It doesn't have as many features as mail-in-a-box though for a example no webmail or Cal/CardDAV, so I have to run those separately. It would be great to extend the project Another similar project is stalw.art mail server. I haven't used that yet but it looks promising, and it supports JMAP (a possible IMAP successor)
- voussoir 3y agoI am also using Maddy so my programs can email me with notifications (I'm not using it to email anyone else) and it has been great. One thing about Mail-in-a-Box is you have to dedicate your entire machine to being MAIB, whereas Maddy is just a regular program you can run along with everything else.
- layer8 3y agoI wonder if there’s a good reason this is based on Ubuntu instead of directly on Debian. It seems the latter would be simpler.
- robwwilliams 3y agoAlways relevant link on this topic that debunks much of the Why You Should Not… https://poolp.org/posts/2019-08-30/you-should-not-run-your-mail-server-because-mail-is-hard/ https://poolp.org/posts/2019-08-30/you-should-not-run-your-m...
- johnklos 3y agoThis isn't the kind of thing I'd run - I'm still running old school Sendmail, IMAP-UW and Cyrus SASL - but it's good to see resources that make hosting email more accessible to everyone. There are altogether too many people who think it's their place to tell others they *shouldn't* self host email, and I think that's a horrible take. It's not too different from saying, "I couldn't learn Finnish, so you shouldn't even try". Actual, technical objections are fine, but most of the time objections brought up by gatekeepery people just show a lack of understanding and experience. For instance, the most common is "you'll never be able to deliver to...", which is ridiculous. Even if you're on a network that has a bad reputation, you can always smarthost through other providers, and you'll still have all the advantages of having logs and your own filters for incoming email, plus the security of possessing your own data. The Internet is a better place when less centralized, so it's nice to know that we still have people who haven't thrown their hands in the air and given up to Google / Microsoft / Amazon :)
- jen_h 3y agoThis is awesome! Have really been thinking about this a lot lately, and my SES->Google Workspace solution works, but isn't viable if we ever left Google Workspace. I might set one up because abdullahkahlids' statement is compelling and correct: "If enough people do it, then over time it will become easier for more people to host their own email." (Plenty folks did this in the heady 90s...) A few questions: - I see that it seems to require Ubuntu, assuming this would work on Debian as well without too many needed tweaks? And are there plans to support CentOS? Ubuntu is my daily driver as a desktop OS, but I rarely use it for server apps due to all the "extra stuff" installed and the network stack is slower out-of-the-box than CentOS and I am usually too lazy to do anything about that other than put my server stuff on CentOS. - Is more documentation available (especially a hardening guide)? For example, I see that Munin's installed (huge fan of Munin, but I'd want to firewall it off for sure), Roundcube used as the front-end management, there are variables you'd want to configure (like support email), I'd probably want to not have sieve open to the world, etc. Basically, I'd love to see a concise list of services and open ports at minimum, so I could figure out what to omit from installation and what to firewall off.
- kureikain 3y agoI operated an email forwarding services[1] and have research this area extensively because eventually customer will keep asking for IMAP. When hosting email, receiving is easy part. But storing and fetching it is hard. Sending out, on other side, is hard to configure but easy to store(there is not much to store except DKIM config). But the hardest part is actually getting providrs to accept your email. I always had issue with ProofPoint and Outlook(Microsoft 365). I also have issue with 800 emails per hours on fastmail. Lot of thing like that come up when hosting your own emails. However, it's worthed it, it open a lot of amazing thing once you own your own email. With that being said, I recomend Maddy https://maddy.email/ https://maddy.email/ it's a very simple deployment that handle pretty much everything. No need to glue multiple system together. For spam filering, just use RSPAMD. --- https://mailwip.com https://mailwip.com
- amaccuish 3y agoI've since moved from SOGo to grommunio[0]. It's Activesync support is great, far better than SOGo, and supports MAPI for Outlook and they'ved just released EWS support for Apple Mail / Outlook for Mac. Couldn't be happier. The other parts are fairly standard, rspamd, postfix etc. [0] https://grommunio.com/ https://grommunio.com/
- wiradikusuma 3y agoJust wondering, is making email hosting with cute name still a thing? I own a couple of cute domain names (something like love.com or pretty.com, but obviously not those), so I'm thinking if I can do a hotmail on those domains.
- JhonesTariH 3y agoJumping into the Mail-in-a-Box discussion: setting it up is pretty smooth, but watch out for those tricky DNS settings. If you're battling with Outlook acceptance, you're not alone - seems like a common headache. Some folks just route through Gmail to dodge the hassle. And hey, if you're looking for a cheap alternative, AWS SES might just be your ticket. So, whether you're DIY-ing your email server or seeking easier routes, the email server world's got a bit of everything. Stay nimble!
- leoh 3y agoOkay, now let’s mail that mailserver