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Show HN: AI Generated SVG's
- nojs 3y agoLook cool but would be good to try without signing up
- tm11zz 3y agoThat's the dream, unfortunately with the costs attached it isn't currently possible.
- cseleborg 3y agoCool service! This, though, may prove to be a weakness of your business model. Having to sign up creates friction (I won't), which may lose you potential paying customers. What else could you be doing to give people a real feel for how well this works? Maybe a gallery of prompts and the respective results?
- fernandopj 3y agoWhen I click to see an imagem from the gallery, it looks like it loaded but then a blank screen appears instead, after what looks like a refresh. Tried on Chrome and Firefox.
- petercooper 3y agoNot free, of course, but when I loaded Adobe Illustrator for the first time in a while the other day I noticed it had gained a feature where it can generatively add elements to vector illustrations. It worked very well in my casual playing around and maintained the style of the existing image too.
- dsmmcken 3y agoDemo of this feature from the most recent Adobe Max conference: https://www.youtube.com/live/1tbrJNP5Cjk?si=tZegLn1-kXE1axDq&t=3051 https://www.youtube.com/live/1tbrJNP5Cjk?si=tZegLn1-kXE1axDq... The style transfer is really impressive (watch past the underwhelming first example of the airplane).
- petercooper 3y agoThanks, I was travelling at the time and completely missed all of this!
- JacobThreeThree 3y agoVery impressive, especially the vector model.
- tasty_freeze 3y agoAre these generated by doing normal text to (pixel) image generation, then doing a raster to svg conversion? Or are LLM models actually capable of generating SVG directly? I can imagine that working for simple things: make a red circle with a blue line under it, because there are many simple examples on the web. But generating complex SVGs directly from text seems like it wouldn't work at all. The examples on their home page are well into the "too complex to generate by piecing together bits of svg examples seen during training."
- bigyikes 3y agoDefinitely raster to svg conversion. The giveaway (besides complex SVG generation being too difficult, as you say) is the splotchiness of the images, since the vectorization doesn't work super well with gradients.
- minimaxir 3y agoYou can prompt ChatGPT to generate SVGs. It unsurprisingly doesn't work well. I once asked it to create a SVG of Earth and it create a green ellipse on top of a blue circle.
- Zetobal 3y agoYes, if you look at the paths it's rather obvious.
- krebby 3y agoYeah unfortunately differentiable SVG rendering is still something that is very difficult to accomplish with diffusion models. I looked into this last year and found VectorFusion [0][1], which appears to be using a similar technique to this app - generate the raster image and then apply a vectorization tracer. This leads to the blobbiness you see, given the way the diffusion model generates the image and the tracer applies to the output. There have been a few attempts (i.e. this recent one [2][3]) to attempt to fine-tune the parameters of the SVG with image segmentation, before comparing rendered outputs with a CLIP model. This is promising but the search space for vector images is just so huge that so far you really need to start with an existing image as a basis rather than starting from scratch. Interesting area of research! 0. https://ajayj.com/vectorfusion/ https://ajayj.com/vectorfusion/ 1. https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.11319 https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.11319 2. https://intchous.github.io/SVGCustomization/ https://intchous.github.io/SVGCustomization/ 3. https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.12302 https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.12302
- kevincox 3y agoStrange that the free tier has no documented limits. I always like it when I can see what I am working with, especially when refining an image will eat into that number.
- jzebedee 3y agoSeems to be hugged to death. Any sign-ups just give me "Email rate limit exceeded".
- tm11zz 3y agoShould be fixed now!
- Zetobal 3y agoThe best pixel to vector is still vectormagic. They are on it since at least 2009 and have a native desktop app. I am not affiliated but just a bit flabbergasted that they are still so far ahead. https://vectormagic.com/ https://vectormagic.com/
- jokethrowaway 3y agoHave you tried? https://www.visioncortex.org/vtracer/ https://www.visioncortex.org/vtracer/ Not affiliated, but I've used them for a project and I was impressed
- mkreis 3y ago> By using the Services, you grant to VectorArt.ai, its successors, and assigns a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, sublicensable, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable copyright license to use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, prepare Derivative Works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sublicense, and/or distribute text prompts and images you input into the Services, or Assets produced by the Service at your direction. -> even to images I upload? This is a no go. As a paid subscriber, I would expect to a) not automatically give a license for everything I UPLOAD B) not automatically give a license for content I created myself
- jahewson 3y agoYeah this is excessive in the extreme. Wave goodbye to your copyright if you upload images to this service. The other thing is that they want you to pay to use the generated images commercially - but (as far as we know) purely AI generated images are not subject to copyright, so such licensing restrictions can’t exist.
- alexchamberlain 3y ago> purely AI generated images are not subject to copyright, so such licensing restrictions can’t exist. This doesn't feel right, similar to how it doesn't feel right that the companies are hoovering up copyrighted data. The company has invested in creating a cool product here, and it's reasonable for them to be able to license that work when used commercially.
- free_bip 3y agoThey created a product and they definitely have copyright over that product. However, what the product is creating, the output, is an AI generated Image... Which because it wasn't human authored, is automatically put into the public domain the moment it's created. The product is copyrighted, the output is not.
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- esafak 3y agoI would buy credits if they let you, instead of a subscription. Just how many vector images do people need to create?
- james2doyle 3y agoIt seems like we still can't use Bard in Canada yet. Pretty annoying. I haven't been able to find an explanation of why it is not available
- politelemon 3y agoBest I could find: When asked what regulations Google is considering when it comes to bringing Bard to Canada, Sebastian cited the Online News Act, which would force tech giants and other companies to pay Canadian news producers for links posted to their platforms “We’ll bring (Bard) here to Canada very soon as we manage through all the regulatory issues,” Sebastian said. https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/google-exec-says-regulatory-concerns-slowing-its-ai-rollout-in-canada-1.1976559 https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/google-exec-says-regulatory-conc...
- TekMol 3y agoIt's a sign-up page for a commercial service, not a show HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html
- Kiro 3y agoI think "sign-up pages" here needs some clarification from the mods (maybe referring to wait lists?). If everything that requires sign-up is banned then why this section further down: > Please make it easy for users to try your thing out, ideally without barriers such as signups or emails. You'll get more feedback that way.
- petee 3y agoI think its pretty clear, Show HN is for readily showing a project, not getting email addresses. Any service should be able to create a demo account. The quote is them just asking nicely and clearly to make it accessible.
- supermatt 3y agoNot actually AI generated SVGs, but it generates an AI raster image and then "converts" it.
- yieldcrv 3y agothis could be great, I’ve tried getting chatgpt4 to output svg, it will but struggles on complexity it can perceive what is being requested but you need to break down each part in a g statement just like with coding
- okamiueru 3y agoSo, if anyone has a weekend to spare, setting up a competitor by running stable diffusion with a LORA for vectorized output with vtracer on the image output... should about do it. Seems at least one of these services pop up every day, and it's usually the same thing wrapped in different packaging.
- andybak 3y agoSpam. Check their post history
- vunderba 3y agoYep, this is not a good look for them or their service. They've posted four Show HNs for this same site in the past year.
- blacksmith_tb 3y agoIt's interesting to see the prompts on specific examples, like https://vectorart.ai/3e5ead1b-60be-40f8-ae6f-25e14ca4e9a0 https://vectorart.ai/3e5ead1b-60be-40f8-ae6f-25e14ca4e9a0 I guess "vectorized" is doing some heavy lifting there for converting to SVG. It's always funny to me to see random text generated, especially when it's either close to right (like this example) or just mangled shapes that were derived from the Roman or Cyrillic alphabet, but which still have some flavor of the original font, just with zero meaning.
- layer8 3y agoSo, this is just traditional image vectorization on top of existing AI-based bitmap image generation. It would be more interesting if this was actually AI-based vector image generation. They also don’t say if they are self-hosting the image generation or rely on an external AI service, which may have an impact on data protection.
- zdwolfe 3y agoSeems to not be working. I tried the same prompt twice. My trial credits were used but there was no image generated, nor do they appear in My Images.
- system2 3y agoThis is an account just to promote the website. I don't think it fits HN.
- tommy_axle 3y agoI found a disfigured hand https://vectorart.ai/3a9041f4-8303-4696-ba11-15d016e9327f https://vectorart.ai/3a9041f4-8303-4696-ba11-15d016e9327f
- leeeeeepw 3y agoNice work! I'm working on a non svg based AI art generator. https://Ebank.nz https://Ebank.nz Would be interested in some research to see if we can re use something I've done in the pixel domain
- tm11zz 3y agoThanks everyone for your feedback and support. I've been adding GPUs as fast as I can to meet demand and some of the earlier performance issues should be much improved.
- cainxinth 3y agoThe vector art header image is pretty bad and not instilling a lot of confidence.
- _ache_ 3y agoHummm, down since yesterday ...
- tm11zz 3y agohey, what's down for you?