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> What makes you think that Telsa, a company with far less AI workers and knowledge, an far less money than the above companies can out design and out build the

by md_ 3y ago

> What makes you think that Telsa, a company with far less AI workers and knowledge, an far less money than the above companies can out design and out build them? Presumably because Elon himself will be involved in the design, and Elon, as we all know, is one of the world's great thinkers. ;)

Jensson 3y ago
Elon is one of the worlds greatest talent poachers, and that is much better than being a great thinker.
- solarkraft 3y ago
  Do you mind explaining what makes him good at it? Pay? Atmosphere? Management style? From what I heard about SpaceX it seems to be a place grads go to burn out while being paid below market rate simply because they're excited about the idea. Maybe that impression is wrong, so I'd like to hear other perspectives.
- md_ 3y ago
  Is he, though? I recently spoke with someone who quit SpaceX because (among other reasons) they felt Elon was a meddling micro-manager. That's just one anecdote, of course, but the Internet is full of them, replete with summary firings (https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-elon-musk-ruthlessly-fired-anyone-who-disagreed-spacex-report-2021-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-elon-musk-ruthlessly-f...), worker safety issues (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/12/hundreds-covid-cases-reported-tesla-plant-following-musks-defiant-reopening-county-data-shows/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/12/hundred...), and just general bullshit (https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/9e360m/elon_has_no_understanding_of_physicsengineering/ https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/9e360m/elon...). I don't deny that his public image, for years, was an overall positive one. I really enjoyed Jill Lepore's digging into it here: https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/elon-musk-the-evening-rocket https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/elon-musk-the-evening-rocket. But it seems like people who worked with him knew, for a long time, that he was full of shit. And increasingly, the public seems to as well.
- chollida1 3y ago
  Interesting, what makes you think this?

by md_ 3y ago

Jensson 3y ago

Elon is one of the worlds greatest talent poachers, and that is much better than being a great thinker.

solarkraft 3y ago
Do you mind explaining what makes him good at it? Pay? Atmosphere? Management style? From what I heard about SpaceX it seems to be a place grads go to burn out while being paid below market rate simply because they're excited about the idea. Maybe that impression is wrong, so I'd like to hear other perspectives.
md_ 3y ago
Is he, though? I recently spoke with someone who quit SpaceX because (among other reasons) they felt Elon was a meddling micro-manager. That's just one anecdote, of course, but the Internet is full of them, replete with summary firings (https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-elon-musk-ruthlessly-fired-anyone-who-disagreed-spacex-report-2021-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-elon-musk-ruthlessly-f...), worker safety issues (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/12/hundreds-covid-cases-reported-tesla-plant-following-musks-defiant-reopening-county-data-shows/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/12/hundred...), and just general bullshit (https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/9e360m/elon_has_no_understanding_of_physicsengineering/ https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/9e360m/elon...). I don't deny that his public image, for years, was an overall positive one. I really enjoyed Jill Lepore's digging into it here: https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/elon-musk-the-evening-rocket https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/elon-musk-the-evening-rocket. But it seems like people who worked with him knew, for a long time, that he was full of shit. And increasingly, the public seems to as well.
chollida1 3y ago
Interesting, what makes you think this?