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Won't we have to do so anyway at some point in order to stop suffering from stupid diseases like cancer and solve other hard problems? Can we not mess it up? If

by d_tr 3y ago

Won't we have to do so anyway at some point in order to stop suffering from stupid diseases like cancer and solve other hard problems? Can we not mess it up? If yes, fine. If not, that's too bad but we have to try anyway IMO.

vouaobrasil 3y ago
We should not attempt to solve all diseases. Many people live a long life without much disease. Yes, it's sad that some people get diseases and of course I've had friends with diseases -- but I am not naive enough to think that it will be a good thing overall to solve all diseases because the end result of a very long life for everyone will be massive overpopulation. Death is a natural part of life, and we should not attempt to avoid it too much because it makes us more machine-like and less human. How many people have questioned the 9-5 lifestyle because they realize they could die at any time? The ultimate logical end of advanced science and AI may be an immortal life, which we are not prepared to handle.
- anonzzzies 3y ago
  For you to have that it’s fine, maybe there are more and you can volunteer to die. For me, I am not so interested in disease or death for me, so I would like it fixed.
  - nat0704 3y ago
    If I could give you a million upvotes I would. Heck I could somehow give you a billion upvotes, I would, even if would cost me my account. Comments like yours restore my hope in HN whenever I start feeling like the community is being taken over by people whose thought processes are flirting on the edge of lunacy. Imagine someone saying some diseases shouldn't be cured. I'm sure the millions of people all over the world who right now are suffering heart-rending pain from those "shouldn't be cured" diseases would be just thrilled to read the parent comment. Jeez!
    - vouaobrasil 3y ago
      I never said we should NOT attempt to solve any diseases. My fear is that if we approach the logical conclusion of solving all diseases THROUGH SCIENCE, it is getting too close to solving death and encouraging overpopulation. You are obviously having a knee-jerk reaction, because I am questioning the very core of society which is the very thing making you comfortable. I am just trying to have a reasonable discussion. Now, there are PLENTY of ways of solving diseases without science. Many diseases are caused by our modern western diet, being sedentary, living in large cities, and being lumps all day whose only purpose is to further more technology. Perhaps it would be a better idea to solve diseases by dismantling this system and thereby making us more healthy so that we don't NEED science as much? The problem is, science has convinced you that disease is just natural and that you need it to solve everything. Again, I am advocating for a healthier lifestyle AWAY from technology, which is certainly possible, instead of relying on technology to solve the very health problems that are created by technology.
      - anonzzzies 3y ago
        > Perhaps it would be a better idea to solve diseases by dismantling this system Why not both?
      - Pugpugpugs 3y ago
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- olalonde 3y ago
  Do you realize those are just rationalizations to make people feel better about death?
- Pugpugpugs 3y ago
  [flagged]
- coffeebeqn 3y ago
  Easy to say that when you’re not sick. Isn’t almost every country on earth having their birth rates plummet ? Mainly due to less people dying and a better quality of life

by d_tr 3y ago

vouaobrasil 3y ago

We should not attempt to solve all diseases. Many people live a long life without much disease. Yes, it's sad that some people get diseases and of course I've had friends with diseases -- but I am not naive enough to think that it will be a good thing overall to solve all diseases because the end result of a very long life for everyone will be massive overpopulation. Death is a natural part of life, and we should not attempt to avoid it too much because it makes us more machine-like and less human. How many people have questioned the 9-5 lifestyle because they realize they could die at any time? The ultimate logical end of advanced science and AI may be an immortal life, which we are not prepared to handle.

anonzzzies 3y ago
For you to have that it’s fine, maybe there are more and you can volunteer to die. For me, I am not so interested in disease or death for me, so I would like it fixed.
- nat0704 3y ago
  If I could give you a million upvotes I would. Heck I could somehow give you a billion upvotes, I would, even if would cost me my account. Comments like yours restore my hope in HN whenever I start feeling like the community is being taken over by people whose thought processes are flirting on the edge of lunacy. Imagine someone saying some diseases shouldn't be cured. I'm sure the millions of people all over the world who right now are suffering heart-rending pain from those "shouldn't be cured" diseases would be just thrilled to read the parent comment. Jeez!
  - vouaobrasil 3y ago
    I never said we should NOT attempt to solve any diseases. My fear is that if we approach the logical conclusion of solving all diseases THROUGH SCIENCE, it is getting too close to solving death and encouraging overpopulation. You are obviously having a knee-jerk reaction, because I am questioning the very core of society which is the very thing making you comfortable. I am just trying to have a reasonable discussion. Now, there are PLENTY of ways of solving diseases without science. Many diseases are caused by our modern western diet, being sedentary, living in large cities, and being lumps all day whose only purpose is to further more technology. Perhaps it would be a better idea to solve diseases by dismantling this system and thereby making us more healthy so that we don't NEED science as much? The problem is, science has convinced you that disease is just natural and that you need it to solve everything. Again, I am advocating for a healthier lifestyle AWAY from technology, which is certainly possible, instead of relying on technology to solve the very health problems that are created by technology.
    - anonzzzies 3y ago
      > Perhaps it would be a better idea to solve diseases by dismantling this system Why not both?
    - Pugpugpugs 3y ago
      [flagged]
olalonde 3y ago
Do you realize those are just rationalizations to make people feel better about death?
Pugpugpugs 3y ago
[flagged]
coffeebeqn 3y ago
Easy to say that when you’re not sick. Isn’t almost every country on earth having their birth rates plummet ? Mainly due to less people dying and a better quality of life