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GitLab team member here (https://gitlab.com/nick_vh https://gitlab.com/nick_vh) It's amazing to see how all our resources have been put together to create such

GitLab team member here (https://gitlab.com/nick_vh https://gitlab.com/nick_vh) It's amazing to see how all our resources have been put together to create such an exhaustive reflection of our culture & values. Thank you for doing that GarethX. GitLab's dual flywheel strategy [0] reinforces our open source growth strategy [1] For those interested, you can learn about GitLab's stewardship promises in our handbook [2] and inspect the Git history for changes transparently (right corner - view page source - GitLab repository view - History) [0] https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/company/strategy/#dual-flywheels https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/company/strategy/#dual-... [1] https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/open-source/growth-strategy.html https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/engineering/open-source/gr... [2] https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/company/stewardship/#promises https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/company/stewardship/#pr...

intelVISA 3y ago
Does GitLab still endorse abusive employment practices like limiting salary by geographic region? No horse in the non-globally-competitive race, just amusingly regressive to see.
- mdekkers 3y ago
  For some reason I keep getting job offers from Gitlab and that salary nonsense is always a hard pass. Whatever do they get off reaching into my private life like that. That isn’t the only thing in their handbook that makes me go hmmm and all in it doesn’t come across as a place id like to work or a leadership team I would respect.
  - xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
    Private life? Could you elaborate?
    - mdekkers 3y ago
      Where I live is a private decision. That should have zero influence on how much they pay me. To me, that comes across as “we will determine your standard of living” and that is incredibly toxic.
pyrodactyl 3y ago
Do you think location based pay aligns with Gitlab's values?
- xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
  I have no horse in the race, but I think the answer is "no" but sometimes it makes sense to diverge from a value if the alternative represents an existential threat. I do not believe GitLab is profitable enough to do this satisfactorily. If a business can't sustainably operate by strictly adhering to their values, is the business sustainable or are the values broken? Is it all a fool's errand? I don't know. It doesn't seem worth closing the book on GitLab for. (I don't know the details but my impression is that GitLab feels very pressured to minmax their monetization strategy to be able to compete with GitHub. I don't see a viable alternative for them. If they're super profitable and I'm talking out of my ass, let me know.)

intelVISA 3y ago

Does GitLab still endorse abusive employment practices like limiting salary by geographic region? No horse in the non-globally-competitive race, just amusingly regressive to see.

mdekkers 3y ago
For some reason I keep getting job offers from Gitlab and that salary nonsense is always a hard pass. Whatever do they get off reaching into my private life like that. That isn’t the only thing in their handbook that makes me go hmmm and all in it doesn’t come across as a place id like to work or a leadership team I would respect.
- xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
  Private life? Could you elaborate?
  - mdekkers 3y ago
    Where I live is a private decision. That should have zero influence on how much they pay me. To me, that comes across as “we will determine your standard of living” and that is incredibly toxic.

pyrodactyl 3y ago

Do you think location based pay aligns with Gitlab's values?

xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
I have no horse in the race, but I think the answer is "no" but sometimes it makes sense to diverge from a value if the alternative represents an existential threat. I do not believe GitLab is profitable enough to do this satisfactorily. If a business can't sustainably operate by strictly adhering to their values, is the business sustainable or are the values broken? Is it all a fool's errand? I don't know. It doesn't seem worth closing the book on GitLab for. (I don't know the details but my impression is that GitLab feels very pressured to minmax their monetization strategy to be able to compete with GitHub. I don't see a viable alternative for them. If they're super profitable and I'm talking out of my ass, let me know.)