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Global warming might not happen quite as fast as we thought
- gardenfelder 3y agoBetter view of same story: https://phys.org/news/2023-11-absorb-co2-human-previously.html https://phys.org/news/2023-11-absorb-co2-human-previously.ht...
- gardenfelder 3y agoThe paper itself: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh9444 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh9444
- onetokeoverthe 3y ago[dead]
- GravityLab 3y agoThis is awesome news. Sounds like we not only have more runway than expected but also obtain more than expected with every tree and shrub we plant.
- jsilence 3y agoHoping that future drought events don't have a massive impact on forests. The 2018 drought in Germany already induced some heat and drought stress on trees. If the trees die, they will not take up 20% more CO2.
- spking 3y agohttps://archive.ph/rTIDU https://archive.ph/rTIDU
- secretsatan 3y agoThat’s weird phrasing from a paper that declared it all a hoax
- pavel_lishin 3y ago- "Global warming isn't real." - "Global warming is real, but not caused by humans." - "Global warming is real and caused by humans, but it's not that bad." - "Global warming is real, caused by humans, pretty bad, but it won't happen as fast as we think."
- secretsatan 3y agoProgress i suppose
- secretsatan 3y agoI’m just waiting for the last iteration, well, it’s happening, and now there’s nothing that can be done, anyway, this is why it happened for very sensible reasons and was utterly unavoidable, i went to a public school btw, then oxford or Cambridge
- toomuchtodo 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck%27s_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck%27s_principle “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”
- pavel_lishin 3y agoSure, as long as a new generation actually has a chance to grow up.
- kadoban 3y agoThere is no progress there. The people saying these things are coming up with their plan (do nothing) and then generating a rationale to match. Humans have a great capacity to rationalize, they won't ever run out of excuses.
- euroderf 3y ago
- Moldoteck 3y agoI may end up sounding like that meme with old pepperidge guy, but I remember when during my childhood almost every winter meant heavy snow and it wasn't that easy to go where you need, but nowadays we barely get any snow at all...
- rad_gruchalski 3y agoAnd Greenland is called Greenland because Vikings had a great sense of humour.
- atoav 3y agoEvery evidence I have seen so far points to the conclusion that it indeed might not happen as fast as we think: it might happen faster.
- addicted 3y agoYeah, there’s a lot of evidence that we may have grossly underestimated the feedback effects. On the flip side, we also underestimated the ability to switch to renewable sources (predictions of the cost and spread of renewable energy have been far too pessimistic going back 2 decades even though these estimates over the past decade or so adjusted for the fact that they were too pessimistic). Further, we’ve already started showing growth without using more energy which shows the tremendous efficiency improvements we’ve been able to make, and was something that wasn’t even considered possible. IOW, global warming is likely worse than we thought, but our ability to fight global warming and the actions we’ve already taken are also much better than most imagined. Which is why it’s so frustrating that we continue to not go big on many of the options to fight global warming that we have available to us.
- acdha 3y agoI’d also add that many of the changes have enormous clear wins for other reasons: fossil fuels are nasty, so even if global warming just disappeared in some sci-fi miracle we’d still save millions of lives annually and improve quality of life by not having internal combustion engines or methane gas appliances. Improving bike & transit infrastructure would make large populations healthier and save everyone a ton of money, etc.
- proc0 3y agoWell it's not happening fast enough for most climate change alarmists to consider building nuclear power. If it's such a threat surely we would trade nuclear waste problems for climate change.
- amanaplanacanal 3y agoNuclear appears to have two problems: it takes so long to build reactors that their solution comes too late, and they are way more expensive than renewables. I don’t have a problem with nuclear, but if wind (or solar) and storage is faster and cheaper, why bother?
- devwastaken 3y agoThe climate death spiral says otherwise. The numbers are only going up, not down.