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It's people having families that is the ultimate corrupt or. If worst comes to worst thy values come first on the chopping block.. One of the reasons old peopl
by 3seashells 3y ago
It's people having families that is the ultimate corrupt or. If worst comes to worst thy values come first on the chopping block..
One of the reasons old people can't look each other in the eye, is that they all have seen what they are willing to do to each other to get junior a good start in life.
- emodendroket 3y agoHaving children can awake antisocial impulses in people but it can awake prosocial impulses just as easily and just as strongly.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y agoSure, if I look at their kids and think to myself "hey, those might make good husbands/wives for my own kids when they grow up".
- emodendroket 3y agoShould I take it to be some kind of Freudian slip that you’ve written “myself” rather than “themselves” here?
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y agoI'm half senile, and so when you replied I wondered if I did that. But re-reading it several times now, I don't see it. When I look at their kids and think to myself "hey, they might make good husbands/wives for my own kids" where is the Freudian? I am on the lookout for my kids. I can't tell them who to marry, but I can put them in circumstances where there are people their age that I approve of, such that familiarity might blossom into something more. I've seen how it turns out with other people's kids when they act like that's none of their business and actively avoid the thinking, and I don't much like the outcomes.
- emodendroket 3y agoMy parents had a lot of ideas about my romantic life too, none of them particularly good or welcome and none of which I listened to. Maybe you'll have better luck.
- nl 3y agoI'm not the OP, but you realize that implying they were looking at the kids as spouses for themselves is extremely creepy right? (Not that I agree with what the OP said either - I think most people have a protective instinct towards all children without thinking of them as potential spouses for their own offspring. We see this behavior in other primates too, eg: https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2021/mountain-gorillas-adopt-orphaned-young/ https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2021/mountain-gorillas-ad... )
- emodendroket 3y agoI think you've misread me. My point was the guy seemed to be suggesting some general human tendency towards extreme self-interest but then used personal pronouns ("I think to myself"). Not that people are generally seeking child brides. If you look at the position of the word "myself" your interpretation does not really fit.
- jsnell 3y agoSure, but everybody generalizes from one example. Well, at least I do.
- nl 3y agoNo, as can be seen by the other comments in this thread the use of "myself" there is entirely appropriate. He is using personal pronouns consistently: "myself" and "my children". "Their" children is the other children he is observing, and he is thinking to himself.
- emodendroket 3y ago
- dekhn 3y agoNo, not the way it's written.
- starcraft2wol 3y agoThis is a very strange comment. Yes people often get territorial about their kids. This is long shot to evil, corruption, or not looking each other in the eye.
- 3seashells 3y agoReally? What about people not in the in-group, not in your tribe?
- starcraft2wol 3y agoPeople without kids have that problem. This poster is talking about having children causing an evil change in personal character.
- sdenton4 3y agoKids often bring out the worst level of 'fuck you, got mine' politicking in humans. All that school segregation stuff in the 60's? Parents 'protecting' their children. Same for the school segregation stuff in the 2010's. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/podcasts/nice-white-parents-serial.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/podcasts/nice-white-paren...
- sage76 3y agoIdk why you are downvoted. It's become a cultural trope to use "I did it for my family" as an excuse to justify absolutely heinous stuff.
- 3seashells 3y agoTo close to home for many? Then again this is what life is about from moralphilosophical view. A body horror show with a "what have I become" at the end? Spoilers not welcome?
- surgical_fire 3y agoThis presumes that people with no children are somehow less horrible. In truth, all humans are equally worthless.
- 3seashells 3y agoLess incentives to be all out horrific in large groups with distributed responsibilities?