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> To be honest, Linux as a desktop environment is already more usable than many people realize. This will be true once the stability of graphics drivers on Lin
by hannofcart 3y ago
> To be honest, Linux as a desktop environment is already more usable than many people realize.
This will be true once the stability of graphics drivers on Linux improves. On every major kernel update, I am always bracing for everything going blank because of driver issues.
- planede 3y agoApart from Nvidia, this feels like a non-issue for me nowadays.
- partitioned 3y ago"Apart from a majority of graphics cards it's a non-issue"
- TheCoelacanth 3y agoSurely a majority of graphics cards are the integrated Intel and AMD ones. Nvidia maybe has a majority of the high-end ones.
- partitioned 3y agoFair enough! My desktop bias shows again
- rcfox 3y agoUnfortunately, Nvidia has ~87% of the market share of discrete GPUs.
- vetinari 3y agoDiscrete GPUs have ~20% share of the entire GPU market. For the vast majority, this is a non-issue. Additionally, the Nvidia problems under Linux are very well known, so getting a Nvidia GPU for Linux is a self-inflicted problem.
- christophilus 3y agoI’m running Nvidia on Wayland (Fedora) without issue. Recentish (3 year old laptop in my case) card. Games work great via Proton. I can’t complain.
- planede 3y agoWhich Wayland compositor? Does it matter? I recently got an Intel iGPU + Nvidia dGPU machine.
- lordnacho 3y agoPeople want to game, and a lot of gamers want Nvidia. The driver may or may not work, but if it has a reputation for maybe not working, people will decide against it. It also possible that people who find out the Nvidia cards are unreliable on Linux are making decisions over other systems where this shouldn't be such a big deal.
- planede 3y agoNvidia cards being unreliable on Linux make me choose an other card instead.
- sandworm101 3y agoThat was my experience too, but a decade ago while running NVidia+Intel hardware. Since switching to AMD+AMD my home machines have only run into the issue once or twice, and then only when running something odd like multiple graphics cards.
- CapsAdmin 3y agoYou may have a good specific point, but I think people will always say "once X is fixed people will switch to Linux". When windows users try Linux for the first time, they'll (rightfully) point out problems, while their Linux friend will just say "oh that's normal, you just have to do Y" and the exact same thing would be true in the reverse situation. Some people are just more tolerant to being in an unpredictable environment than others. I find myself highly tolerant to noise, unpredictability and things breaking. Of course I have my limits, but when comparing myself to my best friend, he will literally have none of it (he's a macos user)
- throw555chip 3y agoI've used nvidia for close to 2 decades on various PC hardware machines, desktops to laptops, Dell, HP, Lenovo and nvidia (binary drivers in the Ubuntu/Kubuntu distribution) work 100%. Zero issues. Old and new machines. Very odd eh?
- pacoverdi 3y agoI bet you didn't use many HiDPI displays during the last decade ;)
- throw555chip 3y agoEven as a gamer, I prefer to use cheap monitors, wasted too much money on expensive ones in my younger days only to see them break after a few years then the money is gone. I can afford better, I'm just cheap. I imagine I will start using a better monitor in coming years and if I see issues, I'll definitely honestly report them and discuss them. Another thing to think about, more pixels means more electricity used to keep them lit and more electricity to shove images around on the screen for the GPU, higher electricity bill, more carbon in the atmosphere. I wonder how many HiDPI users also complain about global warming in other forums.