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Tesla may have picked an unwinnable fight with Sweden's powerful unions

11 points by JoachimS 3y ago

anovikov 3y ago
Only way to go about it is to quit Sweden entirely and clearly threaten to quit every other country that demands the same. Good luck getting Chinese who will have to replace Tesla (for lack of any other options), to sign those agreements.
- pestatije 3y ago
  he can go to Russia see how they treat him there
  - mymusewww 3y ago
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    - TheTxT 3y ago
      I wonder how they would go about something like that. It’s not like they can set up a subsidiary in Russia and freely move funds around?
- qwertox 3y ago
  > for lack of any other options Teslas are status symbols, easily replaceable by other cars with 4 wheels.
- Dah00n 3y ago
  I'm not sure if I understand your point. Why the Chinese specifically? So far, pretty much every company in Sweden have been able to live with Swedish unions. I can't really see why something Chinese owned shouldn't be able to. After all, Chinese businesses and investors seem to like Sweden just fine: https://www.fastmarkets.com/insights/chinas-putailai-to-build-anode-factory-in-sweden/ https://www.fastmarkets.com/insights/chinas-putailai-to-buil...
- audunw 3y ago
  Volvo/Polestar is owned by the Chinese now and they seem to have no problem with the unions. Unions operate similarly in much of Northern Europe.. you could trigger a conflict with EU, and you think Tesla would want to risk much of the European market? Tesla wouldn’t exist without Europe (well, mostly Norway) How about they just respect workers rights? Here’s a crazy idea: give the same rights to workers in the US too.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  … I mean, Top Electric Car Manufacturer in Sweden right now would appear to be VW Group, which is German, not Chinese. But also, like, I’d assume BYD will comply here? Foreign companies going into the Nordics with a “we’ll just ignore the system” record… well, it hasn’t gone _great_ for them. Carface isn’t the first one to try this, you realise?

11 points by JoachimS 3y ago

Only way to go about it is to quit Sweden entirely and clearly threaten to quit every other country that demands the same. Good luck getting Chinese who will have to replace Tesla (for lack of any other options), to sign those agreements.

pestatije 3y ago
he can go to Russia see how they treat him there
- mymusewww 3y ago
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  - TheTxT 3y ago
    I wonder how they would go about something like that. It’s not like they can set up a subsidiary in Russia and freely move funds around?
qwertox 3y ago
> for lack of any other options Teslas are status symbols, easily replaceable by other cars with 4 wheels.
Dah00n 3y ago
I'm not sure if I understand your point. Why the Chinese specifically? So far, pretty much every company in Sweden have been able to live with Swedish unions. I can't really see why something Chinese owned shouldn't be able to. After all, Chinese businesses and investors seem to like Sweden just fine: https://www.fastmarkets.com/insights/chinas-putailai-to-build-anode-factory-in-sweden/ https://www.fastmarkets.com/insights/chinas-putailai-to-buil...
audunw 3y ago
Volvo/Polestar is owned by the Chinese now and they seem to have no problem with the unions. Unions operate similarly in much of Northern Europe.. you could trigger a conflict with EU, and you think Tesla would want to risk much of the European market? Tesla wouldn’t exist without Europe (well, mostly Norway) How about they just respect workers rights? Here’s a crazy idea: give the same rights to workers in the US too.
rsynnott 3y ago
… I mean, Top Electric Car Manufacturer in Sweden right now would appear to be VW Group, which is German, not Chinese. But also, like, I’d assume BYD will comply here? Foreign companies going into the Nordics with a “we’ll just ignore the system” record… well, it hasn’t gone _great_ for them. Carface isn’t the first one to try this, you realise?