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Of course the part about university classes is different, but you seem to ignore everything else I've said. There are tons of podcasts involving experts talkin
by 4ggr0 3y ago
Of course the part about university classes is different, but you seem to ignore everything else I've said.
There are tons of podcasts involving experts talking about their field of expertise, how can it be a mistake to listen to such podcasts to gather information?
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoIt’s a mistake because what drives podcasts are their popularity, not their accuracy. There is no “sort by accuracy” button in any podcasting app, nor are they peer reviewed. Furthermore, podcasts are not a review of the body of knowledge on a subject; they’re often a complete layperson interviewing a single member of a given field, at best. Almost never do the views of any individual actually represent any field as a whole. So once we’ve thrown out the concept of accuracy and completeness, ChatGPT fares exceedingly well in comparison. You’d do much worse than ChatGPT for idle conversation level accuracy.
- Martinussen 3y agoWhat you just wrote makes more sense applied to LLM output than podcasts! You'd just as easily argue that "radio" or "news" is all bad if you don't want to differentiate between different forms of expression and communication within a medium. (Which, obviously, would be silly)
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoSorry what? Nothing I wrote apples to LLMs; they are not optimized for popularity, they’ve been meticulously designed and built to be as accurate as possible.
- thfuran 3y agoThey absolutely have not been meticulously designed to be as factually accurate as possible.
- WendyTheWillow 3y agohttps://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/fine-tuning https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/fine-tuning Yes, they have.
- thfuran 3y agoThat link doesn't say anything about the fundamental design goals of the network architecture or training process. It doesn't even mention factual correctness, except in the sense that it may broadly fall under "producing a desired output".
- croon 3y agoNo they're not. If they were, they would default to 0 temperature and have no Top P, frequency/presence penalty, and frankly not have knowledge as a function of language to begin with. They're designed to be convincing as a "presence" and output reasonable sounding language in context, with accuracy as an afterthought.
- CaptWillard 3y ago>Almost never do the views of any individual actually represent any field as a whole. Setting aside the many individuals who currently lead their fields, history is filled with groundbreaking heretics. https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/mavericks-and-heretics/ https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/mavericks-...
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoHistory is filled with many more plain ol’ heretics however, and we’re exceptionally bad at telling the difference in the meantime. You, most importantly, are complete garbage at telling the difference between a crackpot and an innovator in a field you know nothing about. Trying to drink unpasteurized knowledge will infect you a lot more quickly than it will enlighten you.
- CaptWillard 3y agoI'd say that I regret engaging with you, but that last line is golden. It's not censorship, propaganda and official disinformation, it's "Pasteurized Knowledge®"
- WendyTheWillow 3y agoBut that's the problem; you falsely believe you're capable of differentiating between propaganda and quality. You're not, on topics of which you are not an expert. That's what flat-eartherism is, that's what jewish space lasers are. The argument you're giving is a tacit endorsement of that kind of "inquiry", which for reasonable people is unconscionable.