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We should just learn to ignore people still posting on Twitter (which is called something else now).

saagarjha 3y ago
This is from last year.
andybak 3y ago
I'm still posting on Twitter because the people I'm trying to reach are still there and the alternatives never materialised.
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- WendyTheWillow 3y ago
  Then you are still part of the problem. Besides, if you're trying to reach the people who remain on Twitter, that says a decent amount about you.
  - andybak 3y ago
    "users of my application". You seem to be claiming that everyone still on Twitter is ideologically compromised. There's a ton of people just ignoring the politics and I still need a channel to reach them.
    - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
      The politics are all that are left; it's impossible to use Twitter and not participate on some level. For example, Twitter is now called X. Surely they noticed that.
      - andybak 3y ago
        I can't take this seriously. Sorry.
        WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        Yet again monetary selfishness wins over principle. Maybe you should stay on Twitter. Edit: Based on your website, who exactly are you trying to reach? Prospective clients? On Twitter? You say "users of your app", but it seems like that isn't a huge volume of people, and were you to move to Bluesky, they would almost certainly follow... Unless it's not worth it for them?
        andybak 3y ago
        You're looking at my personal website. And I'm really not engaging any more.
        WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        Serious question; what responsibility do you have as a consumer of a product, if any, beyond yourself?
      - gsich 3y ago
        >For example, Twitter is now called X. Surely they noticed that. So what?
        WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        So the claim that people using Twitter are largely unaware of the substantial changes is an inaccurate one.
        gsich 3y ago
        twitter.com is still working.
  - antiloper 3y ago
    This is the only correct answer, if you don't like the boss of a social media company, you should just cut all ties with everyone on there. Then lock yourself into your room, never go outside again, and complain about it on HN.
    - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
      Or you could have a spine and move over to a platform not run by a billionaire antisemite.
      - andybak 3y ago
        Fix everything that makes Mastodon a terrible user experience, get me and all the people I want to reach an invite to Bluesky or persuade people to start using Threads, and I'll happily switch.
        WendyTheWillow 3y ago
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  - CaptWillard 3y ago
    This kind of rhetoric had a good run, but you should understand it is now (solidly) a net loss in persuasion.
    - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
      The attempt is not persuasion, but alienation. This is the fate of people who behave as he does, and I believe will contribute (to the extent any one person can) in deterrence of others from trying to normalize continued Twitter usage in light of its antisemitic shift in tone.
      - CaptWillard 3y ago
        Alienation from what? People who uncritically parrot fabrications and propaganda on HN? THAT is what shouldn't be "normalized". But since you brought it up, of all the indicators of societal descent over the last 7-10 years, the shift away from critical analysis and open dialogue to soviet-level information control and behavior/thought policing is most troubling. I use Twitter daily because it's the only platform where I have a chance to hear the whole truth on a given subject, usually assembled from multiple sources. I follow a lot of actual leftists as well as the conservatives and liberals-in-exile that make up the modern "right". I don't know that I follow anyone with whom I agree on every topic, and that's as it should be IMO. Even when I strongly disagree, I'm grateful for the freedom to hear and evaluate these voices. And while I'm reluctant to engage with your "argument", I'll say that I've seen a handful of antisemitic posts over 10+ years on Twitter, none recently. I have seen a fair amount of anti-Israel and anti-Zionist content in the last six weeks, consistently from those on the left and consistent with what I've seen in demonstrations around the world.
        WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        The continued use of Twitter ought to be met with disdain by anyone with a modicum of integrity. It is each person’s duty to make that clear to those who seem to lack the ability to self regulate, morally. You don’t get to support a hateful platform consequence free.

This is from last year.

I'm still posting on Twitter because the people I'm trying to reach are still there and the alternatives never materialised.

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WendyTheWillow 3y ago
Then you are still part of the problem. Besides, if you're trying to reach the people who remain on Twitter, that says a decent amount about you.
- andybak 3y ago
  "users of my application". You seem to be claiming that everyone still on Twitter is ideologically compromised. There's a ton of people just ignoring the politics and I still need a channel to reach them.
  - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
    The politics are all that are left; it's impossible to use Twitter and not participate on some level. For example, Twitter is now called X. Surely they noticed that.
    - andybak 3y ago
      I can't take this seriously. Sorry.
      - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        Yet again monetary selfishness wins over principle. Maybe you should stay on Twitter. Edit: Based on your website, who exactly are you trying to reach? Prospective clients? On Twitter? You say "users of your app", but it seems like that isn't a huge volume of people, and were you to move to Bluesky, they would almost certainly follow... Unless it's not worth it for them?
        andybak 3y ago
        You're looking at my personal website. And I'm really not engaging any more.
        WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        Serious question; what responsibility do you have as a consumer of a product, if any, beyond yourself?
    - gsich 3y ago
      >For example, Twitter is now called X. Surely they noticed that. So what?
      - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        So the claim that people using Twitter are largely unaware of the substantial changes is an inaccurate one.
        gsich 3y ago
        twitter.com is still working.
- antiloper 3y ago
  This is the only correct answer, if you don't like the boss of a social media company, you should just cut all ties with everyone on there. Then lock yourself into your room, never go outside again, and complain about it on HN.
  - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
    Or you could have a spine and move over to a platform not run by a billionaire antisemite.
    - andybak 3y ago
      Fix everything that makes Mastodon a terrible user experience, get me and all the people I want to reach an invite to Bluesky or persuade people to start using Threads, and I'll happily switch.
      - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        [flagged]
- CaptWillard 3y ago
  This kind of rhetoric had a good run, but you should understand it is now (solidly) a net loss in persuasion.
  - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
    The attempt is not persuasion, but alienation. This is the fate of people who behave as he does, and I believe will contribute (to the extent any one person can) in deterrence of others from trying to normalize continued Twitter usage in light of its antisemitic shift in tone.
    - CaptWillard 3y ago
      Alienation from what? People who uncritically parrot fabrications and propaganda on HN? THAT is what shouldn't be "normalized". But since you brought it up, of all the indicators of societal descent over the last 7-10 years, the shift away from critical analysis and open dialogue to soviet-level information control and behavior/thought policing is most troubling. I use Twitter daily because it's the only platform where I have a chance to hear the whole truth on a given subject, usually assembled from multiple sources. I follow a lot of actual leftists as well as the conservatives and liberals-in-exile that make up the modern "right". I don't know that I follow anyone with whom I agree on every topic, and that's as it should be IMO. Even when I strongly disagree, I'm grateful for the freedom to hear and evaluate these voices. And while I'm reluctant to engage with your "argument", I'll say that I've seen a handful of antisemitic posts over 10+ years on Twitter, none recently. I have seen a fair amount of anti-Israel and anti-Zionist content in the last six weeks, consistently from those on the left and consistent with what I've seen in demonstrations around the world.
      - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        The continued use of Twitter ought to be met with disdain by anyone with a modicum of integrity. It is each person’s duty to make that clear to those who seem to lack the ability to self regulate, morally. You don’t get to support a hateful platform consequence free.