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I’ve been using this for several weeks now and it’s replaced podcasts for me. I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying question

I’ve been using this for several weeks now and it’s replaced podcasts for me. I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. Other times I’ll just goof off. In one chat, I’m rewriting the Star Wars sequels movie by movie with ChatGPT. I’ve realized that I’m built to learn socially, and ChatGPT never tires of my questions or gets annoyed. One interesting story. My 15 year old kid was talking to it about Percy Jackson, and as Gen Z is prone to do, was using the phrase “kind of” quite a bit. At some point in the conversation, ChatGPT started using “kind of” as well in the audio. I imagine the underlying prompt is “make sure your answers are clear to the user” and somehow it’s determining that “kind of” is a way to build clarity in that context, or the phrase is informing the token set. Unsure but it was a little unsettling. For my part I find the natural pauses and accentuations really helpful. It’ll slow down when it’s hitting an “important” or complicated bit of information, and just like with humans, the pause and change in tone are indicators.

w-ll 3y ago
Me, as a meat popsicle, can you explain to me how the phrase “kind of” is not common? I feel like “kind of” is kind of a common adjective phrase, right?
- superultra 3y ago
  It is, kind of! I definitely use it frequently, but the quantity that my kids use it is at a whole other level. But it’s a colloquial phrase that I rarely, if ever, hear ChatGPT use in the audio presentation, but looking at the chat transcript, there’s definitely a point at which it begins to use “kind of” in multiple ways in its responses, and it wasn’t before.
  - sprobertson 3y ago
    A more blatant example: it will start responding in French if you start speaking to it in French. These things are pattern machines and it makes sense that it will pick up on the lingo they fed (just like we will)
- WendyTheWillow 3y ago
  You can entirely remove it from your speech and lose very little.
  - gettodachoppa 3y ago
    fr fr, low-key this is true.
  - hrnnnnnn 3y ago
    This is true in the narrow sense of it not changing the literal meaning of the sentence much. In a broader sense, using "kind of" a lot is part of a sociolect (in this caze zoomers) and you would lose some sense of beloning to that group by dropping it from your speech.
  - RugnirViking 3y ago
    I disagree. These linguistic innovations (including "like") serve to soften the message. It signals to the listener that the information is not based on considered truth, but on impressions, vibes. This is genuinely how its used, to signal the difference between a personal opinion and something somebody is convinced of. It's kind of like adding "but I could be wrong" to the end of everything
- cmpalmer52 3y ago
  I was playing with the voice interface and pointed out something minor it got wrong (a misunderstood word in my input, not a hallucination/confabulation). The voice response began with, “Oops, my bad”, which made me laugh.
vore 3y ago
How can you tell if ChatGPT is lying to you and what you're learning is total hogwash?
- WendyTheWillow 3y ago
  I imagine the stakes of rewriting the Star Wars films are sufficiently low that this risk is acceptable...
  - vore 3y ago
    I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. Probably don't want to start quoting hallucinated facts!
    - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
      Good thing podcasts never have false/misleading information on them...
      - vore 3y ago
        This is an absurd argument that you are just making for the sake of argument and you know it. There's a difference between someone getting things wrong and a LLM shamelessly making something up out of the whole cloth.
        WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        No; I'm much more confident in ChatGPT's accuracy than I am in a random podcast's accuracy. Podcasts tend to be relatively terrible, accuracy wise. If the alternative is learning from ChatGPT, your odds of getting correct information is substantially higher. Podcasts are entertaining! But not where I would go to learn anything.
        apwell23 3y ago
yieldcrv 3y ago
> I’ve been using this for several weeks now and it’s replaced podcasts for me. I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary This is why I could never get “into podcasts” Which apparently can mean 100 different things, but some popular radio talk show style ones I’ve been exposed to are just two guys rambling about a topic for two hours with lots of filler, where one person is essentially reading a Wikipedia article but getting interrupted every 5 words by the other, to go on - what are supposed to be - comical tangents. Like, this could have been a 30 second sentence. Far too frustrating for me. I get exposed to them on long car rides with other people and that’s shaped my entire opinion.
tkgally 3y ago
> I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. I made a public GPT for a similar purpose. Some examples of my conversations with it: https://youtube.com/@Tom_Gally_UTokyo https://youtube.com/@Tom_Gally_UTokyo
tkgally 3y ago
> It is very trustable about high level things many people know. As the knowledge is more specific or esoteric the less trustworthy it is. That's my experience, too. In addition to sticking to general topics, another fun way to talk with it is to discuss counterfactuals. "Hey, GPT! What do you think the world would be like now if Germany had won World War II [smartphones had not been invented, half of all people were born blind, etc.]." Those questions don't have right or wrong answers, and the answers it does come up with can be thought-provoking.
controversy187 3y ago
> "I’ve realized that I’m built to learn socially" That sentence really resonated with me and sums up a bunch of ideas that have been swirling in my head recently. I've been "interviewing" ChatGPT about world history for a few months now and even turned it into an unsuccessful podcast! I really enjoy learning and creating much more than I would enjoy listening to my own podcast, though :)
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apwell23 3y ago
> it’s replaced podcasts for me Curious. Which podcast did you replace?
mlrtime 3y ago
This remind me of the rick and morty episode, keep summer safe. https://youtu.be/hguiN8oo0dI?si=8SWsnCMkjZ5bYLH9 https://youtu.be/hguiN8oo0dI?si=8SWsnCMkjZ5bYLH9

w-ll 3y ago

Me, as a meat popsicle, can you explain to me how the phrase “kind of” is not common? I feel like “kind of” is kind of a common adjective phrase, right?

superultra 3y ago
It is, kind of! I definitely use it frequently, but the quantity that my kids use it is at a whole other level. But it’s a colloquial phrase that I rarely, if ever, hear ChatGPT use in the audio presentation, but looking at the chat transcript, there’s definitely a point at which it begins to use “kind of” in multiple ways in its responses, and it wasn’t before.
- sprobertson 3y ago
  A more blatant example: it will start responding in French if you start speaking to it in French. These things are pattern machines and it makes sense that it will pick up on the lingo they fed (just like we will)
WendyTheWillow 3y ago
You can entirely remove it from your speech and lose very little.
- gettodachoppa 3y ago
  fr fr, low-key this is true.
- hrnnnnnn 3y ago
  This is true in the narrow sense of it not changing the literal meaning of the sentence much. In a broader sense, using "kind of" a lot is part of a sociolect (in this caze zoomers) and you would lose some sense of beloning to that group by dropping it from your speech.
- RugnirViking 3y ago
  I disagree. These linguistic innovations (including "like") serve to soften the message. It signals to the listener that the information is not based on considered truth, but on impressions, vibes. This is genuinely how its used, to signal the difference between a personal opinion and something somebody is convinced of. It's kind of like adding "but I could be wrong" to the end of everything
cmpalmer52 3y ago
I was playing with the voice interface and pointed out something minor it got wrong (a misunderstood word in my input, not a hallucination/confabulation). The voice response began with, “Oops, my bad”, which made me laugh.

vore 3y ago

How can you tell if ChatGPT is lying to you and what you're learning is total hogwash?

WendyTheWillow 3y ago
I imagine the stakes of rewriting the Star Wars films are sufficiently low that this risk is acceptable...
- vore 3y ago
  I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. Probably don't want to start quoting hallucinated facts!
  - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
    Good thing podcasts never have false/misleading information on them...
    - vore 3y ago
      This is an absurd argument that you are just making for the sake of argument and you know it. There's a difference between someone getting things wrong and a LLM shamelessly making something up out of the whole cloth.
      - WendyTheWillow 3y ago
        No; I'm much more confident in ChatGPT's accuracy than I am in a random podcast's accuracy. Podcasts tend to be relatively terrible, accuracy wise. If the alternative is learning from ChatGPT, your odds of getting correct information is substantially higher. Podcasts are entertaining! But not where I would go to learn anything.
        apwell23 3y ago

yieldcrv 3y ago

> I’ve been using this for several weeks now and it’s replaced podcasts for me. I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary This is why I could never get “into podcasts” Which apparently can mean 100 different things, but some popular radio talk show style ones I’ve been exposed to are just two guys rambling about a topic for two hours with lots of filler, where one person is essentially reading a Wikipedia article but getting interrupted every 5 words by the other, to go on - what are supposed to be - comical tangents. Like, this could have been a 30 second sentence. Far too frustrating for me. I get exposed to them on long car rides with other people and that’s shaped my entire opinion.

tkgally 3y ago

> I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. I made a public GPT for a similar purpose. Some examples of my conversations with it: https://youtube.com/@Tom_Gally_UTokyo https://youtube.com/@Tom_Gally_UTokyo

tkgally 3y ago

> It is very trustable about high level things many people know. As the knowledge is more specific or esoteric the less trustworthy it is. That's my experience, too. In addition to sticking to general topics, another fun way to talk with it is to discuss counterfactuals. "Hey, GPT! What do you think the world would be like now if Germany had won World War II [smartphones had not been invented, half of all people were born blind, etc.]." Those questions don't have right or wrong answers, and the answers it does come up with can be thought-provoking.

controversy187 3y ago

> "I’ve realized that I’m built to learn socially" That sentence really resonated with me and sums up a bunch of ideas that have been swirling in my head recently. I've been "interviewing" ChatGPT about world history for a few months now and even turned it into an unsuccessful podcast! I really enjoy learning and creating much more than I would enjoy listening to my own podcast, though :)

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apwell23 3y ago

> it’s replaced podcasts for me Curious. Which podcast did you replace?

mlrtime 3y ago

This remind me of the rick and morty episode, keep summer safe. https://youtu.be/hguiN8oo0dI?si=8SWsnCMkjZ5bYLH9 https://youtu.be/hguiN8oo0dI?si=8SWsnCMkjZ5bYLH9