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Misleading headline since after testing eight more drives, none more failed. 2/12 is not nearly as dramatic as “half”, and the ones that lost data are the chea
by ricardobeat 3y ago
Misleading headline since after testing eight more drives, none more failed.
2/12 is not nearly as dramatic as “half”, and the ones that lost data are the cheap brands as one would expect.
- alanfranz 3y agoYou can either not editorialize the title, and accept that the thread contains updates, or editorialize it and violate HN guidelines. Either choice will lead somebody to complain
- wannacboatmovie 3y agoClearly they should only editorialize the ones that are wrong.
- lmm 3y agoThat doesn't help, HN mods still "correct" it back to the wrong title even in that case.
- wannacboatmovie 3y agoThat was sarcasm, as what's "wrong" is often subjective and up to interpretation.
- Dylan16807 3y agoAnd it's often not.
- wannacboatmovie 3y agoThen it gets flagged and removed. The end.
- Dylan16807 3y agoNo it doesn't. Good stories with bad titles almost always stay up.
- KennyBlanken 3y agoSo is it the mods who are editing titles of articles to be more sensational and clickbait-y? Because this happens all the damn time, flagging does nothing, etc.
- lmm 3y agoIn many cases yes. I don't know if it's an automated or manual process (it seems to happen less when the US is asleep, so I suspect it's manual?), but generally if you submit a link with a title edited to be less sensational and clickbait-y it gets changed to the linked article title.
- thanhhaimai 3y agoIt's clear from the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38365934#38368867 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38365934#38368867 Specifically: use the original title, then express your view as a top level comment. If people agree with it, the comment is naturally voted up.
- alanfranz 3y agoYes, and the OP did abide by HN guidelines. But GGP implied that the title was misleading; but it was the original title! So, what to do if the original title is misleading? Admittedly this is a twitter thread, so no "actual title" exists.
- _Algernon_ 3y ago>So, what to do if the original title is misleading? I'd suggest posting an alternative, non-misleading source instead, or if none exists, don't post at all.
- andybak 3y agoThen this very interesting piece would never never come to my attention. Which is surely the worst outcome.
- walteweiss 3y agoOh yeah, I bet something dramatic would happen if neither of us would see it.
- 6510 3y agoBest is "you wont believe what happened when I tested NVMe SSDs"
- alanfranz 3y agoPersonally, I _do_ editorialize by posting a “summary” of what a post discusses, if there’s no real title. I try not to make it pass as my own opinion; sometimes it happened that mods reverted it to the original, less relevant title.
- wmf 3y agoSK Hynix is a major brand and the P31 is a great midrange SSD... except for the fact that it seemingly doesn't care about your data.
- ricardobeat 3y agoI have a Sabrent M2 in my own PC, bought it because it was the cheapest option. Incidentally I suspect it's the cause of system-wide slowdown in the past few months, even opening the file explorer takes over ten seconds sometimes.
- dspillett 3y ago> SK Hynix is a major brand Is it? I passed on an offer for a drive carrying that name, and got something else for slightly more, the other day as I didn't know the name. Perhaps their noteworthiness varies internationally? Or do they mainly sell to manufacturers rather than direct to the likes of me?
- catdog 3y agoThey are even among the manufacturers of actual flash memory chips. > Or do they mainly sell to manufacturers rather than direct to the likes of me? This. Think they mostly sell OEM SSDs under their name, if you buy a laptop or pre built system from a major manufacturer chances are not that low that you find a SK Hynix SSD in there.
- Shekelphile 3y ago2/12 is not good, especially if the drives that failed were using off the shelf phison controllers which is basically the entire market besides sandisk/samsung/intel.
- SuchAnonMuchWow 3y agoIt doesn't seems to be related to the controller: the same phison controller was in some model that failed and some models that passed. (see later in the thread: https://twitter.com/xenadu02/status/1496770658750980103 https://twitter.com/xenadu02/status/1496770658750980103)
- cm2187 3y agoTo me the real thing missing is whether those drive advertise power loss protection or not. The next question is whether they are to be used in a laptop where power loss protection is less relevant given the local battery.
- jtwaleson 3y agoThat should be irrelevant, because flush is flush right? If your SSD does not write the data after a flush it's violating basic hard drive functionality.
- HankB99 3y agoGP has a point in that a laptop is much less likely to experience unplanned power loss because of the built in battery. However that does not help desktops which also use NVME SSDs. The other problem is that this doesn't only cause problems resulting from power loss. At least some files systems guarantee consistency of data on the drive by flushing at critical points. ZFS on Linux does this. If the flush doesn't happen as promised, subsequent writes could result in corrupted files should something else like a crash interrupt operation.
- daneel_w 3y ago> "... and the ones that lost data are the cheap brands as one would expect." What a sad world to live in, when one comes to expect cheap storage devices to not fulfill intended function.