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Bard is utter junk. I used to proclaim to everyone how it had its place as an equal tool in my daily AI tool chest specifically for web browsing. When they upda

Bard is utter junk. I used to proclaim to everyone how it had its place as an equal tool in my daily AI tool chest specifically for web browsing. When they updated it and said I could access YouTube transcriptions etc it never really could and still can't. It hallucinates far more than any other llm premium model like Claude or Perplexity. Thus far they better get their s** together for Gemini or they're toast and this is coming from somebody who uses AI llms all day long for half a year

Tommstein 3y ago
I've been using Bard since it came out. Its trajectory, in my opinion, has been "pretty shitty" → "pretty good" → "completely shitty".
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- sho_hn 3y ago
  It's probably not going to become interesting until their Gemini model debuts and Bard is transitioned over to it.
golergka 3y ago
Just tried it, and yeah — it's pretty bad. It first told me that OpenAI's latest model is GPT-3 and only budged to 3.5 after follow-up questions. I mean, isn't retrieving up-to-date and accurate information from the internet the whole Google's thing?
- uoaei 3y ago
  LLMs don't retrieve anything unless there's infra in place so that they can go and do that. It's called Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) and it's still pretty new enough that it hasn't been integrated in all workflows. There was a bunch of copy early on claiming LLMs "read the internet and find you results" but it's weaselly wording and was until remarkably recently complete BS.
  - golergka 3y ago
    Thanks, I know. I built RAG systems with vector databases and related infra. And yes, that's exactly what it claims to do, even with "results verified by Google" in the interface.
  - letmevoteplease 3y ago
    Bard has had access to Google caches since launch. I asked it about my 8-follower Twitter account and it quoted my first Tweet and the registration month correctly. It also hallucinated my gender and described me as "a popular figure in the French-speaking Twitter community" (because my name is a French word, I guess).
JasonBorne 3y ago
Which open AI would you suggest the layman use?
- pram 3y ago
  Mistral OpenOrca is about as good as GPT 3.5 imo https://huggingface.co/Open-Orca/Mistral-7B-OpenOrca https://huggingface.co/Open-Orca/Mistral-7B-OpenOrca https://ollama.ai/library/mistral-openorca https://ollama.ai/library/mistral-openorca
- maypop 3y ago
  For a surprising general purpose local chat experience: OpenHermes 2.5 - Mistral 7B

Tommstein 3y ago

I've been using Bard since it came out. Its trajectory, in my opinion, has been "pretty shitty" → "pretty good" → "completely shitty".

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sho_hn 3y ago
It's probably not going to become interesting until their Gemini model debuts and Bard is transitioned over to it.

golergka 3y ago

Just tried it, and yeah — it's pretty bad. It first told me that OpenAI's latest model is GPT-3 and only budged to 3.5 after follow-up questions. I mean, isn't retrieving up-to-date and accurate information from the internet the whole Google's thing?

uoaei 3y ago
LLMs don't retrieve anything unless there's infra in place so that they can go and do that. It's called Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) and it's still pretty new enough that it hasn't been integrated in all workflows. There was a bunch of copy early on claiming LLMs "read the internet and find you results" but it's weaselly wording and was until remarkably recently complete BS.
- golergka 3y ago
  Thanks, I know. I built RAG systems with vector databases and related infra. And yes, that's exactly what it claims to do, even with "results verified by Google" in the interface.
- letmevoteplease 3y ago
  Bard has had access to Google caches since launch. I asked it about my 8-follower Twitter account and it quoted my first Tweet and the registration month correctly. It also hallucinated my gender and described me as "a popular figure in the French-speaking Twitter community" (because my name is a French word, I guess).

JasonBorne 3y ago

Which open AI would you suggest the layman use?

pram 3y ago
Mistral OpenOrca is about as good as GPT 3.5 imo https://huggingface.co/Open-Orca/Mistral-7B-OpenOrca https://huggingface.co/Open-Orca/Mistral-7B-OpenOrca https://ollama.ai/library/mistral-openorca https://ollama.ai/library/mistral-openorca
maypop 3y ago
For a surprising general purpose local chat experience: OpenHermes 2.5 - Mistral 7B