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It can very much be part of the deal that stand their gcp commitment and play store fees.

by hoffs 3y ago

freedomben 3y ago
Why wouldn't every big company stand up their infra on GCP then? Especially games and things that don't have huge backend requirements, this would be a no-brainer. It would scream anti-trust though, and would surely attract the attention of regulators (which are already circling in the skies)
- kredd 3y ago
  I would say because Spotify has moat? Wouldn’t even be surprised if it is in top 5 apps in the world “running in the background”. Both Google and Spotify kinda win with this agreement. Plus having “Spotify runs on GCP” is a huge advertisement for other enterprise customers.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    What moat? The music industry is willing to make the same deal to everyone. If Spotify had any type of moat, they would be profitable by now.
- eitally 3y ago
  Take a look at my post further up. I think something similar was done for Niantic, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of these publishers also have sweetheart Play deals: https://cloud.google.com/solutions/games https://cloud.google.com/solutions/games
- sa-code 3y ago
  Because not every company that uses GCP gets offered this discount
- matwood 3y ago
  > Why wouldn't every big company stand up their infra on GCP then? Because Amazon is likely already giving big companies discounts. There is a huge amount of competition between the big 3 cloud providers who work whatever deals they can to get big customers.
  - cathalc 3y ago
    This. Most companies running on AWS/GCP/Azure are paying nowhere near the advertised costs. B2B deals are not like consumer ones. Often times companies will "trade" their own business' service in place of cash.
    - matwood 3y ago
      Yup. In B2B in particular, everything is negotiable. The sums of money are large so there's a lot of wiggle room. There's also a lot more strategy involved. It could be the end of the quarter and the someone needs sale or they just want to improve the relationship for the next deal. It can also be as simple as the competition is against companies that hate each other and they'll happily eat a worse deal to get it done to spite the other. One of the fun parts of the business side is coming up with creative ways to get a deal done. Not dissimilar from coming up with creative ways to solve engineering problems.
    - dehrmann 3y ago
      > Most companies running on AWS/GCP/Azure are paying nowhere near the advertised costs This is true, but it misses a big motivation behind it. It costs more to have enough capacity to support on-demand use since it has to sit idle, waiting for a customer. Part of the discount you get is you give AGA certainty in demand. They don't need to hold as many machines in the on-demand pool, and it makes long-term planning easier. You'll also find that those on-demand prices don't actually scale. At some point, you'll have to talk to a rep and commit to more hardware and a discount because you're just too big.

It can very much be part of the deal that stand their gcp commitment and play store fees.

by hoffs 3y ago

It can very much be part of the deal that stand their gcp commitment and play store fees.

Why wouldn't every big company stand up their infra on GCP then? Especially games and things that don't have huge backend requirements, this would be a no-brainer. It would scream anti-trust though, and would surely attract the attention of regulators (which are already circling in the skies)

kredd 3y ago
I would say because Spotify has moat? Wouldn’t even be surprised if it is in top 5 apps in the world “running in the background”. Both Google and Spotify kinda win with this agreement. Plus having “Spotify runs on GCP” is a huge advertisement for other enterprise customers.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  What moat? The music industry is willing to make the same deal to everyone. If Spotify had any type of moat, they would be profitable by now.
eitally 3y ago
Take a look at my post further up. I think something similar was done for Niantic, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of these publishers also have sweetheart Play deals: https://cloud.google.com/solutions/games https://cloud.google.com/solutions/games
sa-code 3y ago
Because not every company that uses GCP gets offered this discount
matwood 3y ago
> Why wouldn't every big company stand up their infra on GCP then? Because Amazon is likely already giving big companies discounts. There is a huge amount of competition between the big 3 cloud providers who work whatever deals they can to get big customers.
- cathalc 3y ago
  This. Most companies running on AWS/GCP/Azure are paying nowhere near the advertised costs. B2B deals are not like consumer ones. Often times companies will "trade" their own business' service in place of cash.
  - matwood 3y ago
    Yup. In B2B in particular, everything is negotiable. The sums of money are large so there's a lot of wiggle room. There's also a lot more strategy involved. It could be the end of the quarter and the someone needs sale or they just want to improve the relationship for the next deal. It can also be as simple as the competition is against companies that hate each other and they'll happily eat a worse deal to get it done to spite the other. One of the fun parts of the business side is coming up with creative ways to get a deal done. Not dissimilar from coming up with creative ways to solve engineering problems.
  - dehrmann 3y ago
    > Most companies running on AWS/GCP/Azure are paying nowhere near the advertised costs This is true, but it misses a big motivation behind it. It costs more to have enough capacity to support on-demand use since it has to sit idle, waiting for a customer. Part of the discount you get is you give AGA certainty in demand. They don't need to hold as many machines in the on-demand pool, and it makes long-term planning easier. You'll also find that those on-demand prices don't actually scale. At some point, you'll have to talk to a rep and commit to more hardware and a discount because you're just too big.