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Blogging is writing something to change minds. Twitter is harrassing other people to change their minds.

by vouaobrasil 3y ago

bryanrasmussen 3y ago
Blogging is developing an argument, Twitter is having an argument.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  Blogging is brain dumping something I thought was interesting I worked on. Slight hope it boosts my career somewhere down the line.
  - Cthulhu_ 3y ago
    Tweeting is brain dumping something while you were drunk. Slight chance it tanks your career somewhere down the line.
    - kevindamm 3y ago
      Blogging is for hit posts, tweeting is for ... something that rhymes with hit posts
      - philipov 3y ago
        You must be thinking of "bit posts", because they're so small :p
      - quickthrower2 3y ago
        lit posts, quit posts, split posts, nit posts, hiit posts, writ posts, flit posts, reddit posts, whatchamacallit posts …
        bryanrasmussen 3y ago
        it was obviously pit posts, like posts you throw into the everlasting pit of damnation.
- orthoxerox 3y ago
  No it isn't, to quote Monty Python. You can't productively argue with someone by splitting your position into 280-character-long bites, each of which can be easily quoted out of context.
  - brlewis 3y ago
    The problem isn't that Twitter is split into small bites. Essays do that with paragraphs and sentences as well. It's that Twitter is not structured in a way conducive to conveying an argument.
    - bryanrasmussen 3y ago
      you're not conveying an argument, you're having an argument - which will never be resolved. The best you can hope for is that one of you blocks the other without wasting too many hours of life.
lloydatkinson 3y ago
Don't forget grifting too. Classic example being crypto/nft/dao bullshit. Then you have devs posting clickbait "hot takes" about the most inane thing you've ever seen or screenshots of code in order to then sell their courses or gain more social influence. I won't give specific names, but one of these characters rhythms with prime numbers and another rhythms with thesaurus.
- ishanhegde 3y ago
  I feel more and more disgusted by social media like twitter nowadays. Too much shilling, too much pushing of extereme unhinged ideas, not to mention the crypto bots, and now the only fans, porn bots. You have thousands of popular accounts exaggerating stupid gimmicks like being against seed oils for some reason. There is such an absurd amount of transparent grifting that twitter looks like some sort of fish market. The moment, twitter added monetization, engagement farming got much worse. Was Social Media always destined to be like this?
  - JCharante 3y ago
    Threads is such an example of this. The first people to sign up to threads wasn't authentic people, it was a bunch of marketing departments going "well, this new social media site is live, we should put our presence on there too" and a bunch of influencers who go "hmm this new platform could be a good way to gain new followers if I post enough content before everybody else gets in on this". Personallly, I think an anonymous social media could work better. If people view content as content without carying about who published it, then you would get good stuff trending and not a 2am selfie from some random celebrity who at this point is famous for being famous. Brands would also have a hard time because their junk wouldn't get engagement unless it was actually good.
    - ishanhegde 3y ago
      An anonymous social media could work if you moderate it extensively and/or restrict who can sign up in the first place. Not to mention, the need to monetize or support the site. Creating a good Social Media site is a hard problem IMO. For all the snark Hacker News gets, I think its not a bad attempt at creating a tech focused social media. Reddit and its many subreddits is something else that works to some extent.
SekstiNi 3y ago
I've seen this sentiment echoed a lot, and I find it somewhat perplexing as my own twitter experience has been mostly pleasant. Do people simply not bother curating their follows?
- vouaobrasil 3y ago
  Well, I think Twitter can actually be a normal place. But the sentiment is about the average, not what it can or can't be.
- oneeyedpigeon 3y ago
  It definitely used to be a lot more 'curatable', but in the Musk era, it's become less pleasant on average.
- xanderlewis 3y ago
  It has become harder and harder to do so, because Twitter (in its default state) now insists on inserting brain-meltingly lowbrow content in between every other post from someone you actually follow. And adverts for low quality iPhone games that are themselves also simply platforms for further adverts.
  - qzx_pierri 3y ago
    This is no longer true. Twitter now has 2 browsing tabs that you can easily swipe between. The first is a “For you” tab which contains recommended content based on YOUR browsing habits (and a “Not Interested” option to curate, just like Tiktok). The second tab is a “Following” tab which is strictly tweets from people you follow, in chronological order. It’s pretty great now. Twitter used to be nothing but quasi activism and rage bait. Now it’s exactly what I envisioned it could’ve been, which is nice. But stay away from it if you have the reddit mindset of “If I don’t agree with it, it should be banned”, because your feelings will get hurt. It feels a lot like the internet 10-15 years ago, it’s great. But I can freely talk about sports and shoot the shit without worrying about triggering an autoban for saying the “badspeak” term or phrase which is currently flavor of the month.
ChrisRR 3y ago
Tweeting is shouting into the void. You're not interested in getting a conversational response, but interested in how many impressions you make The twitter UI is just not designed for conversation.

Blogging is writing something to change minds. Twitter is harrassing other people to change their minds.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

Blogging is developing an argument, Twitter is having an argument.

quickthrower2 3y ago
Blogging is brain dumping something I thought was interesting I worked on. Slight hope it boosts my career somewhere down the line.
- Cthulhu_ 3y ago
  Tweeting is brain dumping something while you were drunk. Slight chance it tanks your career somewhere down the line.
  - kevindamm 3y ago
    Blogging is for hit posts, tweeting is for ... something that rhymes with hit posts
    - philipov 3y ago
      You must be thinking of "bit posts", because they're so small :p
    - quickthrower2 3y ago
      lit posts, quit posts, split posts, nit posts, hiit posts, writ posts, flit posts, reddit posts, whatchamacallit posts …
      - bryanrasmussen 3y ago
        it was obviously pit posts, like posts you throw into the everlasting pit of damnation.
orthoxerox 3y ago
No it isn't, to quote Monty Python. You can't productively argue with someone by splitting your position into 280-character-long bites, each of which can be easily quoted out of context.
- brlewis 3y ago
  The problem isn't that Twitter is split into small bites. Essays do that with paragraphs and sentences as well. It's that Twitter is not structured in a way conducive to conveying an argument.
  - bryanrasmussen 3y ago
    you're not conveying an argument, you're having an argument - which will never be resolved. The best you can hope for is that one of you blocks the other without wasting too many hours of life.

lloydatkinson 3y ago

Don't forget grifting too. Classic example being crypto/nft/dao bullshit. Then you have devs posting clickbait "hot takes" about the most inane thing you've ever seen or screenshots of code in order to then sell their courses or gain more social influence. I won't give specific names, but one of these characters rhythms with prime numbers and another rhythms with thesaurus.

ishanhegde 3y ago
I feel more and more disgusted by social media like twitter nowadays. Too much shilling, too much pushing of extereme unhinged ideas, not to mention the crypto bots, and now the only fans, porn bots. You have thousands of popular accounts exaggerating stupid gimmicks like being against seed oils for some reason. There is such an absurd amount of transparent grifting that twitter looks like some sort of fish market. The moment, twitter added monetization, engagement farming got much worse. Was Social Media always destined to be like this?
- JCharante 3y ago
  Threads is such an example of this. The first people to sign up to threads wasn't authentic people, it was a bunch of marketing departments going "well, this new social media site is live, we should put our presence on there too" and a bunch of influencers who go "hmm this new platform could be a good way to gain new followers if I post enough content before everybody else gets in on this". Personallly, I think an anonymous social media could work better. If people view content as content without carying about who published it, then you would get good stuff trending and not a 2am selfie from some random celebrity who at this point is famous for being famous. Brands would also have a hard time because their junk wouldn't get engagement unless it was actually good.
  - ishanhegde 3y ago
    An anonymous social media could work if you moderate it extensively and/or restrict who can sign up in the first place. Not to mention, the need to monetize or support the site. Creating a good Social Media site is a hard problem IMO. For all the snark Hacker News gets, I think its not a bad attempt at creating a tech focused social media. Reddit and its many subreddits is something else that works to some extent.

SekstiNi 3y ago

I've seen this sentiment echoed a lot, and I find it somewhat perplexing as my own twitter experience has been mostly pleasant. Do people simply not bother curating their follows?

vouaobrasil 3y ago
Well, I think Twitter can actually be a normal place. But the sentiment is about the average, not what it can or can't be.
oneeyedpigeon 3y ago
It definitely used to be a lot more 'curatable', but in the Musk era, it's become less pleasant on average.
xanderlewis 3y ago
It has become harder and harder to do so, because Twitter (in its default state) now insists on inserting brain-meltingly lowbrow content in between every other post from someone you actually follow. And adverts for low quality iPhone games that are themselves also simply platforms for further adverts.
- qzx_pierri 3y ago
  This is no longer true. Twitter now has 2 browsing tabs that you can easily swipe between. The first is a “For you” tab which contains recommended content based on YOUR browsing habits (and a “Not Interested” option to curate, just like Tiktok). The second tab is a “Following” tab which is strictly tweets from people you follow, in chronological order. It’s pretty great now. Twitter used to be nothing but quasi activism and rage bait. Now it’s exactly what I envisioned it could’ve been, which is nice. But stay away from it if you have the reddit mindset of “If I don’t agree with it, it should be banned”, because your feelings will get hurt. It feels a lot like the internet 10-15 years ago, it’s great. But I can freely talk about sports and shoot the shit without worrying about triggering an autoban for saying the “badspeak” term or phrase which is currently flavor of the month.

ChrisRR 3y ago

Tweeting is shouting into the void. You're not interested in getting a conversational response, but interested in how many impressions you make The twitter UI is just not designed for conversation.