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According to Wikipedia Comac has orders in the range of $26 billion for the C919.

elsonrodriguez 3y ago
The same article notes that they are using an engine by GE/Safran, and that there was espionage involved in the development of the C919.
- vidarh 3y ago
  And? Neither of these things change what was being claimed and disputed above.
- lozenge 3y ago
  Apparently, the engines might be 20% of the cost of the plane. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/a/16018 https://aviation.stackexchange.com/a/16018
- coldtea 3y ago
  Happens to the best of them: Economic and industrial espionage has a long history. Father Francois Xavier d'Entrecolles, who visited Jingdezhen, China in 1712 and later used this visit to reveal the manufacturing methods of Chinese porcelain to Europe, is sometimes considered to have conducted an early case of industrial espionage.[16] Historical accounts have been written of industrial espionage between Britain and France.[17] Attributed to Britain's emergence as an "industrial creditor", the second decade of the 18th century saw the emergence of a large-scale state-sponsored effort to surreptitiously take British industrial technology to France.[17] Witnesses confirmed both the inveigling of tradespersons abroad and the placing of apprentices in England.[18] Protests by those such as ironworkers in Sheffield and steelworkers in Newcastle,[clarification needed] about skilled industrial workers being enticed abroad, led to the first English legislation aimed at preventing this method of economic and industrial espionage.[19][18] This did not prevent Samuel Slater from bringing British textile technology to the United States in 1789. In order to catch up with technological advances of European powers, the US government in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries actively encouraged intellectual piracy.
  - fennecbutt 3y ago
    It's a very fair point but it's a then and now thing lmao. I can't justify slavery in x country because "well the west did it before and so now it's their turn" (to use an extreme example and yes I know that slavery has already occurred in almost every country/is still occurring in some).
SR2Z 3y ago
From Chinese airlines that are being told in no uncertain terms that they need to place some orders. Most of that order book is protectionism.

The same article notes that they are using an engine by GE/Safran, and that there was espionage involved in the development of the C919.

vidarh 3y ago
And? Neither of these things change what was being claimed and disputed above.
lozenge 3y ago
Apparently, the engines might be 20% of the cost of the plane. https://aviation.stackexchange.com/a/16018 https://aviation.stackexchange.com/a/16018
coldtea 3y ago
Happens to the best of them: Economic and industrial espionage has a long history. Father Francois Xavier d'Entrecolles, who visited Jingdezhen, China in 1712 and later used this visit to reveal the manufacturing methods of Chinese porcelain to Europe, is sometimes considered to have conducted an early case of industrial espionage.[16] Historical accounts have been written of industrial espionage between Britain and France.[17] Attributed to Britain's emergence as an "industrial creditor", the second decade of the 18th century saw the emergence of a large-scale state-sponsored effort to surreptitiously take British industrial technology to France.[17] Witnesses confirmed both the inveigling of tradespersons abroad and the placing of apprentices in England.[18] Protests by those such as ironworkers in Sheffield and steelworkers in Newcastle,[clarification needed] about skilled industrial workers being enticed abroad, led to the first English legislation aimed at preventing this method of economic and industrial espionage.[19][18] This did not prevent Samuel Slater from bringing British textile technology to the United States in 1789. In order to catch up with technological advances of European powers, the US government in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries actively encouraged intellectual piracy.
- fennecbutt 3y ago
  It's a very fair point but it's a then and now thing lmao. I can't justify slavery in x country because "well the west did it before and so now it's their turn" (to use an extreme example and yes I know that slavery has already occurred in almost every country/is still occurring in some).

SR2Z 3y ago

From Chinese airlines that are being told in no uncertain terms that they need to place some orders. Most of that order book is protectionism.