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still not clear to me why ID matters if they're going to x-ray me
by awinter-py 3y ago
still not clear to me why ID matters if they're going to x-ray me
- alistairSH 3y agoControl.
- pwg 3y agoTo remove, for the airlines, the old grey market of resold "non-refundable" tickets that which the original purchaser can no longer utilize that existed before the ID requirement. There is more profit in being able to sell an unoccupied seat twice (once for the unused non-refundable ticket, a second time when the original ticket does not show up at the gate) than in allowing tickets to be resold on the grey market.
- stavros 3y agoWhy do they care, though, if their margins are going to remain at X% anyway, because of market forces? They're just adding extra steps to the whole thing so a random passenger can benefit from my lost ticket money, rather than someone I explicitly choose.
- JohnFen 3y agoBecause if a ticket is sold privately to another rather than going unused, the airline only gets paid once. If the airline can resell the seat, they get paid for it twice.
- ezfe 3y agoNearly all US airlines except budget airlines allow fee-free credits up until day-of flight...
- JohnFen 3y agoI don't know what this means. When I buy tickets, they are nonrefundable. If I don't use the ticket, I don't get my money back (or credits). You can buy tickets that are refundable, but they cost more.
- ezfe 3y agoRefundable always means to original purchase method. What I'm referring to is usually identified as "change fees." If you cancel a non-refundable non-Basic Delta, JetBlue, American, etc. ticket you will get the entire ticket value as credit for future flights. If you cancel a Basic ticket, you usually get the entire ticket value less a flat fee. Some airlines don't give any credit. If you cancel a Refundable ticket you get the money back on your credit card/bank account.
- phantom784 3y agoThen the airlines should be doing the ID checks. But they don't bother, because the TSA basically does it for them. Pretty sure the stated reason for the TSA checking IDs is to keep people on the no-fly list from flying. (Worth nothing that the no-fly list is not without its problems). It also allows trusted traveler programs to work.
- derbOac 3y agoNot disagreeing with you or the OP about anything, but then this just raises the question for me of why not use facial recognition to screen against a no fly database (negative screen) than to verify identity (positive screen)? Or restrict it to trusted traveler on an opt-in basis? The TSA approach and security paradigm in general seems poorly thought out and misguided to me sometimes.
- spullara 3y agonon-refundable doesn't mean what you think it means. you get a voucher for the ticket price (minus a fee) you can use on a later date so they aren't really selling the seat twice.
- oh_sigh 3y agoI imagine there are still ways naughty people could wreak havoc even if they only have access to items that appear benign on an x-ray.
- komali2 3y agoBuy a beer on the other side of security, it's served in a glass. Take it to the bathroom, wrap in towel, break. You now have many shivs. Distribute to your compatriots. Get compatriot hired to Benny's Shrimp Shack and Burger Emporium. Have him pass a knife roll over the counter from the kitchen. Get a compatriot hired as a cleaner. Have her pass you a bag of bleach and a bag of ammonia. Security theater is wonderful.
- Hnrobert42 3y agoDefense in depth.