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A thing a sad, understated ongoing is that so many people are throwing vitriol at Ilya right now. If the speculation here is true, then he just chased by a mob
by SpaceManNabs 3y ago
A thing a sad, understated ongoing is that so many people are throwing vitriol at Ilya right now. If the speculation here is true, then he just chased by a mob over pure nonsense (well, at least purer than the nonsense premise beforehand).
Gotta love seeing effective altruists take another one on the chin this year though.
- tspike 3y agoDoes this whole thing remind anyone else of the tech community’s version of celebrity gossip?
- SpaceManNabs 3y agoAbsolutely. It is borderline salacious. Honestly didn't feel too good watching so many people opine on matters they had no real data on and insult people; also the employees of openai announcing matters on twitter or wtv in tabloid style. I hope people apologize to Ilya for jumping to conclusions.
- elaus 3y agoYes, it was especially weird to read this on HN to such a big extend. The comments were (and are) full of people with very strong opinions, based on vague tweets or speculation. Quite unusual and hopefully not the new norm...
- fuzztester 3y agoNo. It reminds me more of Muddle [1] Ages' intrigue, scheming, and backstabbing, like the Medicis, Cesare Borgia and clan, Machiavelli (and his book The Prince, see Cesare again), etc., to take just one example. (Italy not being singled out here.) And also reminds me of all the effing feuding clans, dynasties, kingdoms, and empires down the centuries or millenia, since we came down from the trees. I guess galaxies have to be next, and that too is coming up, yo Elon, Mars, etc., what you couldn't fix on earth ain't gonna be fixable on Mars or even Pluto, Dummkopf, but give it your best shot anyway. [1] Not a typo :)
- r3d0c 3y agojust sounds like billionaire tech bros wanting to appear smarter and more important than they really are and a weird cult like obsession with AI at the expense of the rest of humanity even though AGI won't be possible for like a hundred or so years
- fuzztester 3y agoYes, except their obsession is really with getting even more money than the billions they already have, rather than an obsession with AI for advancing humanity, blah blah blah, which they have (not just like) to pretend it is, otherwise no one will respect them, let alone ass-kiss them (which, deep down, is what they really want, hence all the yes-men they surround themselves with).
- Apocryphon 3y agoTechCrunch should be at the forefront with coverage, but their glory days is far behind it. And Valleywag is gone. So I guess it's up to us to gossip on our own.
- silenced_trope 3y agoYes, and I'm ashamed to say I'm unabashedly following it like the people I cringe at follow their fave celebs. It's an interesting saga though and as a payer of ChatGPT+ I feel staked in it.
- jowea 3y agoFinally, drama for people who think ~~we~~they're above celebrity drama.
- jdgoesmarching 3y agoYes and that’s fine. Hell, it might even good for people who have a superiority complex about disliking pop culture. Drama is fun, and this is top tier drama.
- alephnerd 3y agoThis is why I detest YC (despite taking part in salicious gossip on here due to my social media addiction). A couple YC friends of mine have been very explicit about how they detest the conspiratorial YC hivemind.
- Apocryphon 3y agoOh, let us have our fun. The industry's cooled off with the end of ZIRP and the coming holidays so people need the illusion that things are happening.
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- upwardbound 3y agoBut Ilya was the one that started this whole mess... He was the one that lit the match that lit the fuse...
- abakker 3y agoThe dude voted to fire Altman. He could have not done that. Actions have consequences.
- nonethewiser 3y agoAt best he doesn’t have much integrity and caves to peer pressure. I would respect him more if he stood by his actions. Abandoning them just shows how frivolously his decision making was. Perhaps more info will come out that casts a different light, but as of now it seems obvious that he decided to vote to fire Altman for reasons that he’s not willing to clarify and which he abandoned as soon as he saw the overwhelmingly negative reaction. He didnt even say he regrets firing Altman - just that he doesn’t want OpenAI to fall apart.
- abakker 3y agoYeah, these votes were supposed to be what kept us safe from AI. The whole board was ill equipped to keep themselves neutral from their own business, let along protect humanity from the irresponsible outcomes of their models.
- rafaelero 3y agoYeah, let's ask the guy who set the company on fire for forgiveness. He is just a poor child.