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So? Musk claims to be a free speech absolutist. Is this not free speech? It's only defamation if it's not true. It's completely obvious that the site is absolu

by api 3y ago

So? Musk claims to be a free speech absolutist. Is this not free speech? It's only defamation if it's not true. It's completely obvious that the site is absolutely loaded with Nazis and trolls. Seems straightforwardly true to me. Media Matters would not have had to try very hard to cram a feed with that stuff. I don't engage with crap like this and my feed is still loaded with it. That and Elon has been "reply guying" such material for quite some time. He either agrees with them, isn't reading the stuff he promotes, or is actually that tone deaf. Musk also claims to be pro-free-enterprise. Doesn't that mean it's fine for companies to decide not to advertise on X if they dislike the content? These are private companies, not governments. They can advertise anywhere they want. The hypocrisy and double standard is just nuts.

spondylosaurus 3y ago
> Musk also claims to be pro-free-enterprise. Doesn't that mean it's fine for companies to decide not to advertise on X if they dislike the content? These are private companies, not governments. They can advertise anywhere they want. Yeah, the sentiments I'm seeing in this comments section ("they'll be back" / "he should charge even more when they return") are funny in that they're totally disconnected from the current reality of digital advertising: i.e., it's a free market, and ad spend budgets are finite. If people don't want the space, they won't buy it. If the space is seen as less valuable, the people who do buy it will pay less. Supply and demand, baby!
ReptileMan 3y ago
>It's completely obvious that the site is absolutely loaded with Nazis and trolls. Twitter feed is fitted to the consumer. Mine is mostly filled with pro Israel stuff and crypto bros turned AI evangelists. The only antisemitism I have seen is retweeted by couple of Jewish intellectuals I follow. And majority of the antisemitism since Oct 7 is of Muslim or left wing accounts. The ones from the proper Nazis is order of magnitude lower.
JPKab 3y ago
It's interesting that people who don't use the site at all have such strong opinions on it. I have an account from 2008. I use it daily. Because I don't follow bigots and Nazis, and don't interact with their content, I don't see bigoted/Nazi stuff EVER. I primarily see a feed of tech/AI/DevOps stuff, mixed in with pro-Israel posts tossed in with Cheech and Chong gummy ads. The idea that the typical Twitter user following Taylor Swift and Travis Scott and the Washington Post is going to see Apple ads next to Nazi content in their feed is blantantly artificial and silly.

by api 3y ago

spondylosaurus 3y ago

> Musk also claims to be pro-free-enterprise. Doesn't that mean it's fine for companies to decide not to advertise on X if they dislike the content? These are private companies, not governments. They can advertise anywhere they want. Yeah, the sentiments I'm seeing in this comments section ("they'll be back" / "he should charge even more when they return") are funny in that they're totally disconnected from the current reality of digital advertising: i.e., it's a free market, and ad spend budgets are finite. If people don't want the space, they won't buy it. If the space is seen as less valuable, the people who do buy it will pay less. Supply and demand, baby!

ReptileMan 3y ago

>It's completely obvious that the site is absolutely loaded with Nazis and trolls. Twitter feed is fitted to the consumer. Mine is mostly filled with pro Israel stuff and crypto bros turned AI evangelists. The only antisemitism I have seen is retweeted by couple of Jewish intellectuals I follow. And majority of the antisemitism since Oct 7 is of Muslim or left wing accounts. The ones from the proper Nazis is order of magnitude lower.

JPKab 3y ago

It's interesting that people who don't use the site at all have such strong opinions on it. I have an account from 2008. I use it daily. Because I don't follow bigots and Nazis, and don't interact with their content, I don't see bigoted/Nazi stuff EVER. I primarily see a feed of tech/AI/DevOps stuff, mixed in with pro-Israel posts tossed in with Cheech and Chong gummy ads. The idea that the typical Twitter user following Taylor Swift and Travis Scott and the Washington Post is going to see Apple ads next to Nazi content in their feed is blantantly artificial and silly.