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Genuinely curious. Except in the shovelware games industry and the instagram ad scam industry where is AI actually, currently, threatening to take away jobs?

by dartos 3y ago

vouaobrasil 3y ago
1. Illustrators 2. Photographers (Check out Photo.AI). I know a local photographer who takes nice portraits for businesses. Now people can use this service for their headshots. (You may argue that it's good for people but at which point does it remain good if NOBODY can use their creative talents to make a living.) 3. Writing. Many websites are now using writers to write their articles. That means they hire less writers. Again, you can say that it makes society more efficient and I guess it does for consumers, but those people such as copy editors will have to find new jobs. You may say that new jobs will be created but we have not seen such a versatile tool that can take away so many jobs at such a quick pace before. Moreover, will the world really be a nice place to live in if most of the creative jobs or at least jobs involved IN producing something nice will be left to machines? What about Hollywood and their desire to replace writers and actors? You may say that Hollywood is dead anyway, but I'm sure it's about to get a lot worse...
- rvnx 3y ago
  4. Translators 5. Programmers
  - airstrike 3y ago
    6. Voice actors and narrators (eventually news anchors, reporters, etc) 7. Composers, hired musicians, eventually singers, producers
    - hotnfresh 3y ago
      There’s a real chance that one thing AI will make better—not just cheaper—is original scores for movies. Get us out of this “just match the shitty generic placeholder music we already edited the movie to” norm we’ve been in for almost two decades (which itself came about due to changes in technology!)
- Turing_Machine 3y ago
  Think of all the serfs and slaves that were put out of work by the invention of the tractor.
- dartos 3y ago
  I think I worded my question wrong. Where except in those industries I named are AI actually, currently, taking jobs
andyjohnson0 3y ago
Customer service/support. Low-level legal services. Copywriting. Commercial music composition. Commercial illustration production. Junior-level software development.
- vouaobrasil 3y ago
  Indeed, and these people should be able to do things that are useful, not just for themselves, but because interacting with humans to get these things is much better for society than EVERYONE interacting with a damn computer!
merelysounds 3y ago
> layoff announcements from U.S.-based employers reached more than 80,000 in May — a 20% jump from the prior month and nearly four times the level for the same month last year. Of those cuts, AI was responsible for 3,900, or roughly 5% of all jobs lost > The job cuts come as businesses waste no time adopting advanced AI technology to automate a range of tasks — including creative work, such as writing, as well as administrative and clerical work. Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-job-losses-artificial-intelligence-challenger-report/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-job-losses-artificial-intell...
vikramkr 3y ago
Software engineering for sure. Lots of SV types have a very distorted view of what the average programmer not in a high prestige silicon valley company does. Especially contractors and outsourcing firms and the like? Yeah not great for them. Also analyst type roles and data science type roles, since the level of reasoning plus the ability to parse structured data and write code is pretty much there. Medical scribes are already being automated, voice to text plus context aware parsing. I also think areas of law like patent law (writing provisionals etc) are probably in a situation where the tech is already better than humans at writing claims that are not going to conflict with prior art and the like, though there'll be legal barriers there to adoption. But a lot of the legal staff involved might be replaced even if the lawyers and agents are not. Anyone who writes review papers/research summaries like market reports without actively doing non-internet research like interviewing people are going to struggle against AI written reviews that can just pull from more information than humanly possible to parse. Accounting, preparing financial statements, etc where "creativity" is not necessary a good thing also, though again regulations might stop that. And obviously in healthcare, doctors like radiologists and surgeons etc which we've been talking about as a possibility for a long time but looks more possible than ever now. Also there's areas where it's quickly becoming a required skill set, so it's not that it's replacing people but that the people there are getting their skills obsoleted. All the molecular biologists I know that used to joke about how they picked biology since they suck with computers and hate excel are at a high risk of getting left behind right now, especially with how steep the improvement's been with protein design models like RFDiffusion. Though by latest rumors it looks like the vast vast majority of biologists involved in protein work have already started using tools like alphafold and esmfold so it does look like people are adapting.

Genuinely curious. Except in the shovelware games industry and the instagram ad scam industry where is AI actually, currently, threatening to take away jobs?

by dartos 3y ago

Genuinely curious. Except in the shovelware games industry and the instagram ad scam industry where is AI actually, currently, threatening to take away jobs?

vouaobrasil 3y ago

1. Illustrators 2. Photographers (Check out Photo.AI). I know a local photographer who takes nice portraits for businesses. Now people can use this service for their headshots. (You may argue that it's good for people but at which point does it remain good if NOBODY can use their creative talents to make a living.) 3. Writing. Many websites are now using writers to write their articles. That means they hire less writers. Again, you can say that it makes society more efficient and I guess it does for consumers, but those people such as copy editors will have to find new jobs. You may say that new jobs will be created but we have not seen such a versatile tool that can take away so many jobs at such a quick pace before. Moreover, will the world really be a nice place to live in if most of the creative jobs or at least jobs involved IN producing something nice will be left to machines? What about Hollywood and their desire to replace writers and actors? You may say that Hollywood is dead anyway, but I'm sure it's about to get a lot worse...

rvnx 3y ago
4. Translators 5. Programmers
- airstrike 3y ago
  6. Voice actors and narrators (eventually news anchors, reporters, etc) 7. Composers, hired musicians, eventually singers, producers
  - hotnfresh 3y ago
    There’s a real chance that one thing AI will make better—not just cheaper—is original scores for movies. Get us out of this “just match the shitty generic placeholder music we already edited the movie to” norm we’ve been in for almost two decades (which itself came about due to changes in technology!)
Turing_Machine 3y ago
Think of all the serfs and slaves that were put out of work by the invention of the tractor.
dartos 3y ago
I think I worded my question wrong. Where except in those industries I named are AI actually, currently, taking jobs

andyjohnson0 3y ago

Customer service/support. Low-level legal services. Copywriting. Commercial music composition. Commercial illustration production. Junior-level software development.

vouaobrasil 3y ago
Indeed, and these people should be able to do things that are useful, not just for themselves, but because interacting with humans to get these things is much better for society than EVERYONE interacting with a damn computer!

merelysounds 3y ago

> layoff announcements from U.S.-based employers reached more than 80,000 in May — a 20% jump from the prior month and nearly four times the level for the same month last year. Of those cuts, AI was responsible for 3,900, or roughly 5% of all jobs lost > The job cuts come as businesses waste no time adopting advanced AI technology to automate a range of tasks — including creative work, such as writing, as well as administrative and clerical work. Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-job-losses-artificial-intelligence-challenger-report/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-job-losses-artificial-intell...

vikramkr 3y ago

Software engineering for sure. Lots of SV types have a very distorted view of what the average programmer not in a high prestige silicon valley company does. Especially contractors and outsourcing firms and the like? Yeah not great for them. Also analyst type roles and data science type roles, since the level of reasoning plus the ability to parse structured data and write code is pretty much there. Medical scribes are already being automated, voice to text plus context aware parsing. I also think areas of law like patent law (writing provisionals etc) are probably in a situation where the tech is already better than humans at writing claims that are not going to conflict with prior art and the like, though there'll be legal barriers there to adoption. But a lot of the legal staff involved might be replaced even if the lawyers and agents are not. Anyone who writes review papers/research summaries like market reports without actively doing non-internet research like interviewing people are going to struggle against AI written reviews that can just pull from more information than humanly possible to parse. Accounting, preparing financial statements, etc where "creativity" is not necessary a good thing also, though again regulations might stop that. And obviously in healthcare, doctors like radiologists and surgeons etc which we've been talking about as a possibility for a long time but looks more possible than ever now. Also there's areas where it's quickly becoming a required skill set, so it's not that it's replacing people but that the people there are getting their skills obsoleted. All the molecular biologists I know that used to joke about how they picked biology since they suck with computers and hate excel are at a high risk of getting left behind right now, especially with how steep the improvement's been with protein design models like RFDiffusion. Though by latest rumors it looks like the vast vast majority of biologists involved in protein work have already started using tools like alphafold and esmfold so it does look like people are adapting.