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This is precisely the problem OpenAI aimed to solve: This technology cannot be treated independently of the potential risks involved. I agree that this solutio

by 9dev 3y ago

This is precisely the problem OpenAI aimed to solve: This technology cannot be treated independently of the potential risks involved. I agree that this solution seems beneficial for both Microsoft and Sam Altman, but it reflects poorly on society if we simply accept this version of the story without criticism.

disgruntledphd2 3y ago
Yeah but this was caused by the OpenAI board when they fired him. I mean, what did they think was going to happen? Seems like a textbook case of letting the best be the enemy of the good.
- TheOtherHobbes 3y ago
  Perhaps this is why they fired him. Although IMO MS has consistently been a technological tarpit. Whatever AI comes out of this arrangement will be a thin shadow of what it might have been.
  - nopromisessir 3y ago
    MSFT is a technological tarpit? Mate... Just because you don't bat perfect doesn't make you a tarpit. MSFT is a technological powerhouse. They have absolutely killed it since they were founded. They have defined personal computing for multiple generations and more or less made the word 'software' something spoken occasionally at kitchen tables vs people saying 'soft-what?' Definitely not a tarpit. You are throwing out whole villages of babies because of some various nasty bathwater over the years. The picture is bigger. So much crucial tech from MSFT. Remains true today.
    - gremlinunderway 3y ago
      "Innovation" through anti-trust isn't "killing it".
      - nopromisessir 3y ago
        Uhhh they won that appeal BTW.. If you are referring to the trouble with Janet Reno. Gates keeps repeating. Noone hears it.
  - cyanydeez 3y ago
    ClippyAI coming2025: I see you're trying to invade a third world nation, can I help you with that?
avidphantasm 3y ago
> This is precisely the problem OpenAI aimed to solve: This technology cannot be treated independently of the potential risks involved. I’ve always thought that what OpenAI was purporting to do—-“protect” humanity from bad things that AI could do to it—-was a fool’s errand under a Capitalist system, what with the coercive law of competition and all.

by 9dev 3y ago

disgruntledphd2 3y ago

Yeah but this was caused by the OpenAI board when they fired him. I mean, what did they think was going to happen? Seems like a textbook case of letting the best be the enemy of the good.

TheOtherHobbes 3y ago
Perhaps this is why they fired him. Although IMO MS has consistently been a technological tarpit. Whatever AI comes out of this arrangement will be a thin shadow of what it might have been.
- nopromisessir 3y ago
  MSFT is a technological tarpit? Mate... Just because you don't bat perfect doesn't make you a tarpit. MSFT is a technological powerhouse. They have absolutely killed it since they were founded. They have defined personal computing for multiple generations and more or less made the word 'software' something spoken occasionally at kitchen tables vs people saying 'soft-what?' Definitely not a tarpit. You are throwing out whole villages of babies because of some various nasty bathwater over the years. The picture is bigger. So much crucial tech from MSFT. Remains true today.
  - gremlinunderway 3y ago
    "Innovation" through anti-trust isn't "killing it".
    - nopromisessir 3y ago
      Uhhh they won that appeal BTW.. If you are referring to the trouble with Janet Reno. Gates keeps repeating. Noone hears it.
- cyanydeez 3y ago
  ClippyAI coming2025: I see you're trying to invade a third world nation, can I help you with that?

avidphantasm 3y ago

> This is precisely the problem OpenAI aimed to solve: This technology cannot be treated independently of the potential risks involved. I’ve always thought that what OpenAI was purporting to do—-“protect” humanity from bad things that AI could do to it—-was a fool’s errand under a Capitalist system, what with the coercive law of competition and all.