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Microsoft: We remain committed to our partnership with OpenAI

73 points by upwardbound 3y ago

rado 3y ago
Translation: OAI is toast
- 15457345234 3y ago
  Toast tastes amazing
- timeon 3y ago
  Extinguish phase about to start.
- gscott 3y ago
  "together with colleagues" is an invitation to quit and join MS
- rvz 3y ago
  Or OpenAI is going to eventually get extinguished by Microsoft, once the employees who's shares are now worth 90% less than they did in the last week.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    People were claming Facebook was dead a few months ago. We'll see.
    - blitzar 3y ago
      If Ai had not magically appeared they would be dead - the most commonly posted articles on HN would be about how the 12th round of layoffs at big tech had reduced headcount to 30% of its peak. Big tech employees are recieving paycheques on the back of the Ai mirage.
      - ChatGTP 3y ago
        I don't think so, they have billions of users, it was doing to "die". On the other hand, AI did come along, and the zuck had invested in a team of strong AI researchers, so he had a strategy and it paid off? Go figure?
  - cmcaleer 3y ago
    Reality is they're still in the lead with the most widely used product. Sucks to lose a lot of their talent, but I wouldn't entirely count them out. Sure is great news for Anthropic and other competitors though.
- Eumenes 3y ago
  Microsoft has a long tradition of stifling competition. They can't really do it out in the open anymore, so the acquihire method seems brilliant - certainly cheaper than litigation or fighting things out in the court of public opinion (lets be real, who actually cares outside of the niche tech/biz community).
15457345234 3y ago
" We look forward to getting to know Emmett Shear " Hmm
- User3456335 3y ago
  The corporate equivalent of "Who the f** is that guy?"
  - 15457345234 3y ago
    I was interpreting it more along the lines of 'we have absolutely no common ground, shared values or pre-existing relationships with that guy' myself...
    - rat9988 3y ago
      Indeed, but corporate speak is a lote more warmer usually. They at least know his resume, have talked a bit, and then they sugar coat everything.
    - upwardbound 3y ago
      I don't think he meant anything as mean-spirited as that. I think it's more of just "I don't know this guy at all", or more succinctly "who the f is this guy" as the GP comment put it haha. [Edit: oops, I dumb. Codethief correctly pointed out that I made a mistake - I probably would have failed any class about intro to set theory.. Derp.]
      - codethief 3y ago
        > they don't have any mutual connections with each other. > (I deduced this because the list of mutual connections I have with Satya, and the list of mutual connections I have with Emmett, are disjoint.) Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't see how one thing follows from the other. They could have a mutual connection that you're not connected to, couldn't they?
      - barrkel 3y ago
nbittich 3y ago
Is it just me or it's the sixth times today that the same tweet is referenced as an hn news?
- saliagato 3y ago
  same topic different tweets
  - nerdypirate 3y ago
    Nah same tweet different topics
racked 3y ago
> And we’re extremely excited to share the news that Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, together with colleagues, will be joining Microsoft to lead a new advanced AI research team. This seems like the real bit of news here
- 15457345234 3y ago
  Odd to choose VC/finance types to lead a research team
  - trhway 3y ago
    Satya hires and is going to invest further into the people who, instead of delivering as promised, brought him this mess. It all looks like a panic scrambling on the part of Satya and Altman. Like as if the whole deal was hinging on Altman - such risky deal would be a mistake on part of Satya, the mistake that it looks to me he is scrambling to cover.
    - ChildOfChaos 3y ago
      Wouldn't the people that 'brought him this mess' be the people at OpenAI still? Not the people jumping ship.
  - kranke155 3y ago
    Sam has a lot of researchers wanting to jump ship. there was a thread on Twitter where employees would heart one of Sam's tweets as a signal they would jump ship with him towards his next adventure. A lot of OAI folk sent the signal.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
  - dimask 3y ago
    They probably care more about the people they may bring with them.
- 3y ago
karmasimida 3y ago
Translation: I yet know or recognize the CEO.
deleted 3y ago
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diziet 3y ago
Emmett Shear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Shear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Shear
- DiabloD3 3y ago
  --- Emmett Shear (born 1983) is the interim CEO of the artificial intelligence company OpenAI, having been named by the board on November 19, 2023 following the ousting of former CEO Sam Altman two days earlier.[1] Previously, Shear was the chief executive officer of Twitch, a position he served in until March 2023 since it was originally founded as a live video platform Justin.tv. Shear served as a part-time partner at venture capital firm Y Combinator.[2][3] --- Wikipedia sure is fast. "Currently, the next guy to run the drama factory. Previously, much lesser known positions, such as the CEO of Twitch and a guy at some thing called Y Combinator."
saikatsg 3y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38344196 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38344196
- kristianp 3y ago
  This thread is a Duplicate of parent.
DebtDeflation 3y ago
Microsoft: We remain committed to our partnership with OpenAI ...until we have developed our own internal foundation model on par with GPT-4.
taspeotis 3y ago
12 Months Hence https://imgur.com/a/ZjehzHY https://imgur.com/a/ZjehzHY
nprateem 3y ago
Satya's todo list: 1. Hire Altman and co to prevent share price bloodbath (and reach new heights) 2. Gradually strangle OpenAI's access to compute resources to ensure their failure 3. Prevent competitors saving OpenAI due to continued large minority ownership 4. $$$ I name this an acquassination. It's a master stroke and incredible good luck for MSFT. It'll pay for itself in share valuation increase and save them from actually buying OpenAI (not that they could have due to the non-profit, but they would have ages ago if possible).
- cmcaleer 3y ago
  Absolutely insane turnaround from the POV of the share price. MSFT went from dropping 1.5% on the news right before close Friday to a new all time high before the market opened Monday. Turning "MSFT's most promising investment is in serious turmoil" in to a positive news story before the market opened is crazy. Would love to be working a tech stock desk right now to know what it's like.
  - blitzar 3y ago
    > Would love to be working a tech stock desk right now to know what it's like. dropping 1.5% - those are rookie numbers in this racket.
- peteradio 3y ago
  They don't need cloud as latency is not an issue for research. They could pursue compute in Europe who may have better laws regarding privacy anyway. MSFT is a fat man trying to sit on the little man but the little man is more nimble.

73 points by upwardbound 3y ago

rado 3y ago

Translation: OAI is toast

15457345234 3y ago
Toast tastes amazing
timeon 3y ago
Extinguish phase about to start.
gscott 3y ago
"together with colleagues" is an invitation to quit and join MS
rvz 3y ago
Or OpenAI is going to eventually get extinguished by Microsoft, once the employees who's shares are now worth 90% less than they did in the last week.
- ChatGTP 3y ago
  People were claming Facebook was dead a few months ago. We'll see.
  - blitzar 3y ago
    If Ai had not magically appeared they would be dead - the most commonly posted articles on HN would be about how the 12th round of layoffs at big tech had reduced headcount to 30% of its peak. Big tech employees are recieving paycheques on the back of the Ai mirage.
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      I don't think so, they have billions of users, it was doing to "die". On the other hand, AI did come along, and the zuck had invested in a team of strong AI researchers, so he had a strategy and it paid off? Go figure?
- cmcaleer 3y ago
  Reality is they're still in the lead with the most widely used product. Sucks to lose a lot of their talent, but I wouldn't entirely count them out. Sure is great news for Anthropic and other competitors though.
Eumenes 3y ago
Microsoft has a long tradition of stifling competition. They can't really do it out in the open anymore, so the acquihire method seems brilliant - certainly cheaper than litigation or fighting things out in the court of public opinion (lets be real, who actually cares outside of the niche tech/biz community).

15457345234 3y ago

" We look forward to getting to know Emmett Shear " Hmm

User3456335 3y ago
The corporate equivalent of "Who the f** is that guy?"
- 15457345234 3y ago
  I was interpreting it more along the lines of 'we have absolutely no common ground, shared values or pre-existing relationships with that guy' myself...
  - rat9988 3y ago
    Indeed, but corporate speak is a lote more warmer usually. They at least know his resume, have talked a bit, and then they sugar coat everything.
  - upwardbound 3y ago
    I don't think he meant anything as mean-spirited as that. I think it's more of just "I don't know this guy at all", or more succinctly "who the f is this guy" as the GP comment put it haha. [Edit: oops, I dumb. Codethief correctly pointed out that I made a mistake - I probably would have failed any class about intro to set theory.. Derp.]
    - codethief 3y ago
      > they don't have any mutual connections with each other. > (I deduced this because the list of mutual connections I have with Satya, and the list of mutual connections I have with Emmett, are disjoint.) Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't see how one thing follows from the other. They could have a mutual connection that you're not connected to, couldn't they?
    - barrkel 3y ago

nbittich 3y ago

Is it just me or it's the sixth times today that the same tweet is referenced as an hn news?

saliagato 3y ago
same topic different tweets
- nerdypirate 3y ago
  Nah same tweet different topics

racked 3y ago

> And we’re extremely excited to share the news that Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, together with colleagues, will be joining Microsoft to lead a new advanced AI research team. This seems like the real bit of news here

15457345234 3y ago
Odd to choose VC/finance types to lead a research team
- trhway 3y ago
  Satya hires and is going to invest further into the people who, instead of delivering as promised, brought him this mess. It all looks like a panic scrambling on the part of Satya and Altman. Like as if the whole deal was hinging on Altman - such risky deal would be a mistake on part of Satya, the mistake that it looks to me he is scrambling to cover.
  - ChildOfChaos 3y ago
    Wouldn't the people that 'brought him this mess' be the people at OpenAI still? Not the people jumping ship.
- kranke155 3y ago
  Sam has a lot of researchers wanting to jump ship. there was a thread on Twitter where employees would heart one of Sam's tweets as a signal they would jump ship with him towards his next adventure. A lot of OAI folk sent the signal.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
- dimask 3y ago
  They probably care more about the people they may bring with them.
3y ago

karmasimida 3y ago

Translation: I yet know or recognize the CEO.

deleted 3y ago

[deleted]

diziet 3y ago

Emmett Shear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Shear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Shear

DiabloD3 3y ago
--- Emmett Shear (born 1983) is the interim CEO of the artificial intelligence company OpenAI, having been named by the board on November 19, 2023 following the ousting of former CEO Sam Altman two days earlier.[1] Previously, Shear was the chief executive officer of Twitch, a position he served in until March 2023 since it was originally founded as a live video platform Justin.tv. Shear served as a part-time partner at venture capital firm Y Combinator.[2][3] --- Wikipedia sure is fast. "Currently, the next guy to run the drama factory. Previously, much lesser known positions, such as the CEO of Twitch and a guy at some thing called Y Combinator."

saikatsg 3y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38344196 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38344196

kristianp 3y ago
This thread is a Duplicate of parent.

DebtDeflation 3y ago

Microsoft: We remain committed to our partnership with OpenAI ...until we have developed our own internal foundation model on par with GPT-4.

taspeotis 3y ago

12 Months Hence https://imgur.com/a/ZjehzHY https://imgur.com/a/ZjehzHY

nprateem 3y ago

Satya's todo list: 1. Hire Altman and co to prevent share price bloodbath (and reach new heights) 2. Gradually strangle OpenAI's access to compute resources to ensure their failure 3. Prevent competitors saving OpenAI due to continued large minority ownership 4. $$$ I name this an acquassination. It's a master stroke and incredible good luck for MSFT. It'll pay for itself in share valuation increase and save them from actually buying OpenAI (not that they could have due to the non-profit, but they would have ages ago if possible).

cmcaleer 3y ago
Absolutely insane turnaround from the POV of the share price. MSFT went from dropping 1.5% on the news right before close Friday to a new all time high before the market opened Monday. Turning "MSFT's most promising investment is in serious turmoil" in to a positive news story before the market opened is crazy. Would love to be working a tech stock desk right now to know what it's like.
- blitzar 3y ago
  > Would love to be working a tech stock desk right now to know what it's like. dropping 1.5% - those are rookie numbers in this racket.
peteradio 3y ago
They don't need cloud as latency is not an issue for research. They could pursue compute in Europe who may have better laws regarding privacy anyway. MSFT is a fat man trying to sit on the little man but the little man is more nimble.