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Seems like a good compromise? OpenAI continues to develop core AI offered over API. Microsoft builds the developer ecosystem around it -- that's Sam's expertis

Seems like a good compromise? OpenAI continues to develop core AI offered over API. Microsoft builds the developer ecosystem around it -- that's Sam's expertise anyway. Microsoft has made a bunch of investment in the developer ecosystem in GitHub and that fits the theme. Assuming Sam sticks around. Also, the way the tweet is worded (looking forward to working with OpenAI), seems like its a truce negotiated by Satya?

kjksf 3y ago
This is Microsoft starting a copy machine to replace OpenAI with in-house tech in medium to long term. Apparently Microsoft already had plans to spend $50 billion on cloud hardware. Now they are getting software talent and insider knowledge to replace OpenAI software with in-house tech built by Sam, Greg and others that will join. Satya just pulled a kill move on OpenAI.
- soumyadeb 3y ago
  Does Microsoft (under the OpenAI agreement) have access to the model code etc or just the output? If not, they would have to rebuild it. Not sure if its obvious that people would leave OpenAI in troves to join Microsoft just to be with Sam.
  - haldujai 3y ago
    I doubt it would be hard for Microsoft to rebuild, Microsoft Research has made many excellent contributions to transformers for many years now, DeepSpeed is a notable example. I don’t think they’ve had the will/need to have done this but they most likely already have the talent.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  Embrace…
  - klabb3 3y ago
    Yeah agree, this feels like a very big hug.
    - quickthrower2 3y ago
      Hug of death?
ChildOfChaos 3y ago
It's a no lose situation for Microsoft. Either there in house team wins out and Microsoft wins. Or OpenAI wins out and Microsoft wins with there exclusive deal and 75% of OpenAI profits. Better to have two horses in the race in something so important, makes it much harder than one of the other companies will be the one to come out top.
- chx 3y ago
  > in something so important, Much as LLM is essentially industrial strength gaslighting, so is the meta around it. It's not so important. There's not much there. No it's not going to take your jobs. I am old enough to remember not only the How Blockchain Is Solving World Hunger articles but the paperless office claims as well -- I was born within a few weeks of the publication of the (in)famous "The Office of the Future" article from BusinessWeek. Didn't happen. No, a plausible sentence generator is just that: the next hype. In fact some of the hustlers behind it are the same as those who have hustled crypto. Someone got to hold the bag on that one but it wasn't the rich white techbros. So it'll be here. Once enough companies get burned when the stochastic parrot botches something badly enough to get a massive fine from a regulator or a devastating lawsuit, everyone will run for the hills. And again... it won't be the VCs holding the bag. Guess who will be. Guess why AI is so badly hyped. If you think the ChatGPT release happening within a few weeks of the collapse of FTX is a coincidence I have ... well, not a bridge but an AI hype to sell to you and in fact you already bought it.
  - ChildOfChaos 3y ago
    OpenAI is doing a lot more work than just a LLM, despite that being there headline product for now. I'd rather have OpenAI leading the way than Microsoft or Google in this stuff. Despite it's own issues. I get your pessimism, but the same has been said about a lot of tech that did go on to change the world, just because a lot of people made a lot of noise about previous tech that failed to come to anything doesn't mean to say this is the same thing, it's completely different tech. A lot of OpenAI's products are out in the real world and I use them everyday, I never touched Crypto, now maybe LLM's won't live up to the hype, but OpenAi's stuff is already been used in a lot of products, used by millions of users, even Spotify. 'A plausible sentence generator is just that: the next hype' - Maybe, but AI goes far beyond LLM as does the products OpenAI produces.

kjksf 3y ago

This is Microsoft starting a copy machine to replace OpenAI with in-house tech in medium to long term. Apparently Microsoft already had plans to spend $50 billion on cloud hardware. Now they are getting software talent and insider knowledge to replace OpenAI software with in-house tech built by Sam, Greg and others that will join. Satya just pulled a kill move on OpenAI.

soumyadeb 3y ago
Does Microsoft (under the OpenAI agreement) have access to the model code etc or just the output? If not, they would have to rebuild it. Not sure if its obvious that people would leave OpenAI in troves to join Microsoft just to be with Sam.
- haldujai 3y ago
  I doubt it would be hard for Microsoft to rebuild, Microsoft Research has made many excellent contributions to transformers for many years now, DeepSpeed is a notable example. I don’t think they’ve had the will/need to have done this but they most likely already have the talent.
quickthrower2 3y ago
Embrace…
- klabb3 3y ago
  Yeah agree, this feels like a very big hug.
  - quickthrower2 3y ago
    Hug of death?

ChildOfChaos 3y ago

It's a no lose situation for Microsoft. Either there in house team wins out and Microsoft wins. Or OpenAI wins out and Microsoft wins with there exclusive deal and 75% of OpenAI profits. Better to have two horses in the race in something so important, makes it much harder than one of the other companies will be the one to come out top.

chx 3y ago
> in something so important, Much as LLM is essentially industrial strength gaslighting, so is the meta around it. It's not so important. There's not much there. No it's not going to take your jobs. I am old enough to remember not only the How Blockchain Is Solving World Hunger articles but the paperless office claims as well -- I was born within a few weeks of the publication of the (in)famous "The Office of the Future" article from BusinessWeek. Didn't happen. No, a plausible sentence generator is just that: the next hype. In fact some of the hustlers behind it are the same as those who have hustled crypto. Someone got to hold the bag on that one but it wasn't the rich white techbros. So it'll be here. Once enough companies get burned when the stochastic parrot botches something badly enough to get a massive fine from a regulator or a devastating lawsuit, everyone will run for the hills. And again... it won't be the VCs holding the bag. Guess who will be. Guess why AI is so badly hyped. If you think the ChatGPT release happening within a few weeks of the collapse of FTX is a coincidence I have ... well, not a bridge but an AI hype to sell to you and in fact you already bought it.
- ChildOfChaos 3y ago
  OpenAI is doing a lot more work than just a LLM, despite that being there headline product for now. I'd rather have OpenAI leading the way than Microsoft or Google in this stuff. Despite it's own issues. I get your pessimism, but the same has been said about a lot of tech that did go on to change the world, just because a lot of people made a lot of noise about previous tech that failed to come to anything doesn't mean to say this is the same thing, it's completely different tech. A lot of OpenAI's products are out in the real world and I use them everyday, I never touched Crypto, now maybe LLM's won't live up to the hype, but OpenAi's stuff is already been used in a lot of products, used by millions of users, even Spotify. 'A plausible sentence generator is just that: the next hype' - Maybe, but AI goes far beyond LLM as does the products OpenAI produces.