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Sama: I love the OpenAI team so much

50 points by nickrubin 3y ago

chipgap98 3y ago
Well this clears things up /s
rideontime 3y ago
god what a creep.
awb 3y ago
https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/18/23967199/breaking-openai-board-in-discussions-with-sam-altman-to-return-as-ceo https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/18/23967199/breaking-openai... > Update, 5:35PM PT: A source close to Altman says the board had agreed in principle to resign and to allow Altman and Brockman to return, but has since waffled — missing a key 5PM PT deadline by which many OpenAI staffers were set to resign. If Altman decides to leave and start a new company, those staffers would assuredly go with him. > Altman holding talks with the company just a day after he was ousted indicates that OpenAI is in a state of free-fall without him. Hours after he was axed, Greg Brockman, OpenAI’s president and former board chairman, resigned, and the two have been talking to friends and investors about starting another company. A string of senior researchers also resigned on Friday, and people close to OpenAI say more departures are in the works. Maybe a deal actually went through? Or he’s referring to the resignations?
- yumraj 3y ago
  It sounds more like FUD being spread by Sam camp. I just don’t see a reason as to why the board would resign. But, what do I, or anyone except the people involved, know. OTOH, the tweet sounds/read weird. Is he trying to recruit folks for his next venture.
  - bmitc 3y ago
    Agreed. The board resigning after all this would seem pointless if not completely bewildering. Why would they do that after removing him? The board has no financial interest in the company, so what power does Altman have? Also, I see this Tweet by Altman: > if i start going off, the openai board should go after me for the full value of my shares What does that mean?
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  - mullingitover 3y ago
    > I just don’t see a reason as to why the board would resign The golden rule. The people with the gold make the rules, and Microsoft has poured mountains of capital into the company. For their board to make an extremely consequential move like they did without consulting their benefactors was the height of hubris. Merely being forced to resign would be merciful, I half expect Satya to find some way to have them thrown in prison.
    - yumraj 3y ago
      > Merely being forced to resign would be merciful, I half expect Satya to find some way to have them thrown in prison. Prison? For what??
      - mullingitover 3y ago
        I'm mostly being facetious, but if you have an unlimited budget to throw into a legal war chest for the purpose of making someone's life miserable, you can make someone's life miserable.
- gkoberger 3y ago
  No, he's just publicly making it clear how much support he has internally. (And to be fair, I do believe that's how he feels, of course – he's probably appreciative of everyone backing him.) If there was a deal, he wouldn't have tweeted it this way.
- karmasimida 3y ago
  This is so ambiguous. It could mean he loves the team and comes back, or the team loves him so much they decided to join him in next venture. Who knows. But definitely a power move to turn up the heat to get good wills from the crowd
- himaraya 3y ago
  The Verge seems squarely in Sam's camp. Bloomberg reports the board "balking" at stepping down. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-board-being-pressed-by-some-investors-to-reinstate-altman https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-bo...
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > Altman holding talks with the company just a day after he was ousted indicates that OpenAI is in a state of free-fall without him. OTOH, "sources close to Altman" saying that that is happening to the media just says that people close to Altman (quite likely acting as proxies for Altman) want it to be seen that way. > Maybe a deal actually went through? Or maybe he is expressing his positive feelings for the team in the hope of provoking some reciprocation from OpenAI workers to exert pressure on the board to make the thing his camp is saying is happening actually happen, or, if negotiations are actually happening, to make them more likely to be resolved in his favor.
  - liuliu 3y ago
    Several low profile OAI employees retweeted with ♥ (same as gdb) indicating the returning is done and through from my interpretation.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      I don't see how that clearly indicates that. It works just as well as a public expression of support if conflict hasn't been resolved,
  - junofan 3y ago
    It’s over. He’s back.
    - lostmsu 3y ago
      Source?
  - lostmsu 3y ago
    It is curious that neither side seems interested to bring the matter to public, but Altman definitely is trying to take advantage of that.
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malwarebytess 3y ago
This strikes me as narcissistic. Maybe the board wasn't wrong.
- LewisVerstappen 3y ago
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- gkoberger 3y ago
  Why do you think appreciating the people who have worked with you for years (and currently are supporting you) is narcissistic?
  - DotaFan 3y ago
    Maybe, when posted at this time, it might be?
  - ilaksh 3y ago
    I don't think it's narcissistic, but it's not necessarily just about supporting them. It's a maneuver/test/demonstration of where he stands with various employees. It gives him information and sends a signal about his standing with OpenAI staff.
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  - hackerlight 3y ago
    So many key employees are defecting, this Tweet could be interpreted as his support of the people siding with him over the good of the company, which would be narcissistic if the board had a valid reason for their decision. But all that's speculative.
wokwokwok 3y ago
I mean, this is getting ridiculous now. Really, sort yourselves out. This veiled tweet stuff is just drama queens being dramatic for the sake of it at this point. I care what happens to openAI … but at this point I give literally zero fucks what people are tweeting and what it may / may not / according some insider / outsider / person close to it who renames nameless might mean or not mean. Sam tweeting “I <3 openAI” is not HN news worthy content.
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- dclowd9901 3y ago
  I’m with you. This is starting to feel like that “Friendship ended with Mudasir” meme. These are the people leading the AI revolution? The thing that could potentially upend our entire civilization? A bunch of ninnying brats kicking each other out of a club? Oy vey. We’re fucked. https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/friendship-ended-with-mudasir https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/friendship-ended-with-mud...
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  There is this strange online phenomenon where people seek out content they dont like and then get bothered that it exists instead of just not paying attention.
  - singularity2001 3y ago
    might be part of a bigger human tendency to seek out flaws and trying to fix them.
    - s1artibartfast 3y ago
      I like your positive attitude
- evbogue 3y ago
  This is how the Livejournal generation communicates. We don't have press releases or proper sit down board meetings. To communicate about a job loss or job gain we must have feelings and whatever music we are listening to right now.
Lejoon 3y ago
1 year ago people were complaining that OpenAI wasn’t acting enough like a non-profit. Now when they adhere to their mission statement and valued they get totally overrun by silicon valley tech bros. The money/profit leg of OpenAI seems to be in actual control. Money talks.
CSMastermind 3y ago
Greg Brockman and Brad Lightcap (current COO) both immediately retweeted it with just a heart. https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1726100488947679304 https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1726100488947679304 https://twitter.com/bradlightcap https://twitter.com/bradlightcap
- kubrickslair 3y ago
  Is not Lightcap retweeting the bigger deal as Greg already quit? It shows some serious level of support internally.
  - CSMastermind 3y ago
    It gets more wild, more than 50 OpenAI employees have now joined in and done the same thing: https://twitter.com/altryne/status/1726106462022508851 https://twitter.com/altryne/status/1726106462022508851
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dr_dshiv 3y ago
“hi if i start something new, will you join me?” If enough yeses at openai, sama has plenty of leverage for coming back or starting up.
kubrickslair 3y ago
I think this is the relevant post with senior OpenAI folks reposting with heart: Counted 52 OpenAI employees supporting @sama with more rolling in by the minute https://twitter.com/FreddieRaynolds/status/1726110024982736913 https://twitter.com/FreddieRaynolds/status/17261100249827369...

50 points by nickrubin 3y ago

chipgap98 3y ago

Well this clears things up /s

rideontime 3y ago

god what a creep.

awb 3y ago

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/18/23967199/breaking-openai-board-in-discussions-with-sam-altman-to-return-as-ceo https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/18/23967199/breaking-openai... > Update, 5:35PM PT: A source close to Altman says the board had agreed in principle to resign and to allow Altman and Brockman to return, but has since waffled — missing a key 5PM PT deadline by which many OpenAI staffers were set to resign. If Altman decides to leave and start a new company, those staffers would assuredly go with him. > Altman holding talks with the company just a day after he was ousted indicates that OpenAI is in a state of free-fall without him. Hours after he was axed, Greg Brockman, OpenAI’s president and former board chairman, resigned, and the two have been talking to friends and investors about starting another company. A string of senior researchers also resigned on Friday, and people close to OpenAI say more departures are in the works. Maybe a deal actually went through? Or he’s referring to the resignations?

yumraj 3y ago
It sounds more like FUD being spread by Sam camp. I just don’t see a reason as to why the board would resign. But, what do I, or anyone except the people involved, know. OTOH, the tweet sounds/read weird. Is he trying to recruit folks for his next venture.
- bmitc 3y ago
  Agreed. The board resigning after all this would seem pointless if not completely bewildering. Why would they do that after removing him? The board has no financial interest in the company, so what power does Altman have? Also, I see this Tweet by Altman: > if i start going off, the openai board should go after me for the full value of my shares What does that mean?
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- mullingitover 3y ago
  > I just don’t see a reason as to why the board would resign The golden rule. The people with the gold make the rules, and Microsoft has poured mountains of capital into the company. For their board to make an extremely consequential move like they did without consulting their benefactors was the height of hubris. Merely being forced to resign would be merciful, I half expect Satya to find some way to have them thrown in prison.
  - yumraj 3y ago
    > Merely being forced to resign would be merciful, I half expect Satya to find some way to have them thrown in prison. Prison? For what??
    - mullingitover 3y ago
      I'm mostly being facetious, but if you have an unlimited budget to throw into a legal war chest for the purpose of making someone's life miserable, you can make someone's life miserable.
gkoberger 3y ago
No, he's just publicly making it clear how much support he has internally. (And to be fair, I do believe that's how he feels, of course – he's probably appreciative of everyone backing him.) If there was a deal, he wouldn't have tweeted it this way.
karmasimida 3y ago
This is so ambiguous. It could mean he loves the team and comes back, or the team loves him so much they decided to join him in next venture. Who knows. But definitely a power move to turn up the heat to get good wills from the crowd
himaraya 3y ago
The Verge seems squarely in Sam's camp. Bloomberg reports the board "balking" at stepping down. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-board-being-pressed-by-some-investors-to-reinstate-altman https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-bo...
dragonwriter 3y ago
> Altman holding talks with the company just a day after he was ousted indicates that OpenAI is in a state of free-fall without him. OTOH, "sources close to Altman" saying that that is happening to the media just says that people close to Altman (quite likely acting as proxies for Altman) want it to be seen that way. > Maybe a deal actually went through? Or maybe he is expressing his positive feelings for the team in the hope of provoking some reciprocation from OpenAI workers to exert pressure on the board to make the thing his camp is saying is happening actually happen, or, if negotiations are actually happening, to make them more likely to be resolved in his favor.
- liuliu 3y ago
  Several low profile OAI employees retweeted with ♥ (same as gdb) indicating the returning is done and through from my interpretation.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    I don't see how that clearly indicates that. It works just as well as a public expression of support if conflict hasn't been resolved,
- junofan 3y ago
  It’s over. He’s back.
  - lostmsu 3y ago
    Source?
- lostmsu 3y ago
  It is curious that neither side seems interested to bring the matter to public, but Altman definitely is trying to take advantage of that.

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malwarebytess 3y ago

This strikes me as narcissistic. Maybe the board wasn't wrong.

LewisVerstappen 3y ago
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gkoberger 3y ago
Why do you think appreciating the people who have worked with you for years (and currently are supporting you) is narcissistic?
- DotaFan 3y ago
  Maybe, when posted at this time, it might be?
- ilaksh 3y ago
  I don't think it's narcissistic, but it's not necessarily just about supporting them. It's a maneuver/test/demonstration of where he stands with various employees. It gives him information and sends a signal about his standing with OpenAI staff.
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- hackerlight 3y ago
  So many key employees are defecting, this Tweet could be interpreted as his support of the people siding with him over the good of the company, which would be narcissistic if the board had a valid reason for their decision. But all that's speculative.

wokwokwok 3y ago

I mean, this is getting ridiculous now. Really, sort yourselves out. This veiled tweet stuff is just drama queens being dramatic for the sake of it at this point. I care what happens to openAI … but at this point I give literally zero fucks what people are tweeting and what it may / may not / according some insider / outsider / person close to it who renames nameless might mean or not mean. Sam tweeting “I <3 openAI” is not HN news worthy content.

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dclowd9901 3y ago
I’m with you. This is starting to feel like that “Friendship ended with Mudasir” meme. These are the people leading the AI revolution? The thing that could potentially upend our entire civilization? A bunch of ninnying brats kicking each other out of a club? Oy vey. We’re fucked. https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/friendship-ended-with-mudasir https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/friendship-ended-with-mud...
s1artibartfast 3y ago
There is this strange online phenomenon where people seek out content they dont like and then get bothered that it exists instead of just not paying attention.
- singularity2001 3y ago
  might be part of a bigger human tendency to seek out flaws and trying to fix them.
  - s1artibartfast 3y ago
    I like your positive attitude
evbogue 3y ago
This is how the Livejournal generation communicates. We don't have press releases or proper sit down board meetings. To communicate about a job loss or job gain we must have feelings and whatever music we are listening to right now.

Lejoon 3y ago

1 year ago people were complaining that OpenAI wasn’t acting enough like a non-profit. Now when they adhere to their mission statement and valued they get totally overrun by silicon valley tech bros. The money/profit leg of OpenAI seems to be in actual control. Money talks.

CSMastermind 3y ago

Greg Brockman and Brad Lightcap (current COO) both immediately retweeted it with just a heart. https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1726100488947679304 https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1726100488947679304 https://twitter.com/bradlightcap https://twitter.com/bradlightcap

kubrickslair 3y ago
Is not Lightcap retweeting the bigger deal as Greg already quit? It shows some serious level of support internally.
- CSMastermind 3y ago
  It gets more wild, more than 50 OpenAI employees have now joined in and done the same thing: https://twitter.com/altryne/status/1726106462022508851 https://twitter.com/altryne/status/1726106462022508851

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dr_dshiv 3y ago

“hi if i start something new, will you join me?” If enough yeses at openai, sama has plenty of leverage for coming back or starting up.

kubrickslair 3y ago

I think this is the relevant post with senior OpenAI folks reposting with heart: Counted 52 OpenAI employees supporting @sama with more rolling in by the minute https://twitter.com/FreddieRaynolds/status/1726110024982736913 https://twitter.com/FreddieRaynolds/status/17261100249827369...