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Making humanity’s current lives worse to fund some theoretical future good (enriching himself in the process) is some highly impressive rationalisation work.
by roguecoder 3y ago
Making humanity’s current lives worse to fund some theoretical future good (enriching himself in the process) is some highly impressive rationalisation work.
- Rzor 3y agoTry to tell that to the Effective Altruism crowd.
- concordDance 3y agoLiterally any investment is a divert of resources from the present (harming the present) to the future. E.g. planting grains for next year rather than eating them now.
- autaut 3y agoThere is a difference between investing in a company who is developing ai software in a widely accessible way that improve everyone’s lives and a company that pursues software to put out of work entire sectors for the profit of a dozen of investors
- concordDance 3y ago"Put out of work" is a good thing. If I make a new js library which means a project that used to take 10 devs now takes 5 I've put 5 devs out of work. But ive also made the world a more efficient place and those 5 devs can go do some other valuable thing.
- gemstones 3y agoWhat percent of those devs don’t do a valuable thing and become homeless? Maybe devs are a bad example, so replace them with “retail workers” in your statement if it helps. Is “put out of work” a good thing with no practical limits?
- concordDance 3y agoYes, the ideal is when most jobs are genuinely automated we can finally afford UBI.
- lotsoweiners 3y agoWho can afford it? When LawyerAI and AccountAI are used by all of the mega corps to find more and more tax loopholes and many citizens can’t work then where will UBI come from?
- gemstones 3y agoAnd people with money will want to make UBI happen because...?
- kergonath 3y agoMy thought exactly. Some people don’t have any problem with inflicting misery now for hypothetical future good.
- 0xDEAFBEAD 3y agoHere's the discussion on the EA forum if anyone is interested: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HjgD3Q5uWD2iJZpEN/sam-altman-fired-from-openai https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HjgD3Q5uWD2iJZpEN/... I think the EA movement has been broadly skeptical towards Sam for a while -- my understanding is that Anthropic was founded by EAs who used to work at OpenAI and decided they didn't trust Sam.
- concordDance 3y ago> Making humanity’s current lives worse to fund some theoretical future good Note that this clause would describe any government funded research for example.