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Ok. I'll bite. This strikes me as going too far. the justification (upfront which is not as usual for most papers I come across which explain what they did th
by lifeisstillgood 3y ago
Ok. I'll bite.
This strikes me as going too far.
the justification (upfront which is not as usual for most papers I come across which explain what they did that was so cool first) is something like it's hard to determine if what drugs we give to a brain is just brain based or is the darn body getting involved too.
But you know, if I understand that right, then we are mostly going to want to care about the brain and body together - cos that's how most of us function.
I get it's an engineering challenge. I also get that experimenting with certain things is just off-limits, foetuses being the first thing that come to mind.
I am a huge proponent for increasing science funding every day of the week, for undirected research because we don't know what we don't know, but sometimes we just need to say, find another way.
- chpatrick 3y agoI think you would feel differently if one day your heart stops and the doctors can stop you from getting brain damage using this technology.
- LightMachine 3y agoExactly. That kind of anti-scientific propaganda is dangerous. OP shouldn't have so many upvotes.
- Teever 3y agoI resent the attempt to tie the entirety of science to the use of animals in experiments. Someone can still be a strong proponent of the scientific method but be opposed to animal testing for moral reasons.
- chpatrick 3y agoWhat's more moral, experimenting on one pig or letting thousands of people die who could be helped by your research?
- throwaway373737 3y ago[flagged]
- krisoft 3y agoOr as an alternative question: is it less moral to do this experiment than eating the pig? Because society seems to be by far and large be okay with eating pigs.
- amelius 3y agoI think the relevant question is: if you were the pig, would you choose the experiment over being treated as in the food industry?
- rl3 3y ago>I think the relevant question is: if you were the pig, would you choose the experiment over being treated as in the food industry? Any day. The pigs were anesthetized. A slaughter house is a positively horrific experience by contrast.
- i8comments 3y agoEating is a basic necessity for life, scientific experiments are not; you can eat plants instead, too.
- chpatrick 3y agoScientific experiments are necessary for life if you're dying of a fatal illness.
- Teever 3y agoWhat does this have to do with my comment?
- chpatrick 3y agoI understand what you're saying but it's pretty much impossible to be scientific in biology or medicine without animal testing.