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OpenVMS Account at DECUServe

70 points by BSDobelix 3y ago

jandeboevrie 3y ago
I got my start on OpenVMS at DECUServe 5 years ago: https://raymii.org/s/blog/My_first_OpenVMS.html https://raymii.org/s/blog/My_first_OpenVMS.html Friendly community! But now OpenVMS is available on x86 and you can run it in VirtualBox yourself: https://raymii.org/s/blog/OpenVMS_9.2_for_x86_Getting_Started.html https://raymii.org/s/blog/OpenVMS_9.2_for_x86_Getting_Starte...
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  Hey! Thank you very much for your blog, got (again) into OpenVMS X86 because of it! BTW when do you blog about a cluster setup? ;)
  - mrlonglong 3y ago
    Sign me up for this too!
  - jandeboevrie 3y ago
    It's on my todo list! I hope to integrate it with some modern software like haproxy or the built in Apache fork, next to file sharing etc.
    - BSDobelix 3y ago
      ATM i test OpenJDK with Yacy, clustering Yacy via OpenVMS is next ;)
    - mechanicker 3y ago
      Samba for file sharing? I led development efforts for the first Samba release on VMS (IA64) working at HP. It was not performant enough compared to ASV but we were on the right path.
- mrlonglong 3y ago
  I've worked with VMS in the early 90s. Still my favourite operating system, and I'm really happy they ported it to the x86 architecture.
  - BSDobelix 3y ago
    If you haven't already seen it some story's from Andy Goldstein[1]. The quality of OpenVMS is really something else, also repeated from Dave Cutler[2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vASxBpf4ti0&list=PLewDXk9a8laNlQzg0KBGUqzB_ZzwCy4DO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vASxBpf4ti0&list=PLewDXk9a8l... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1Lq79mLeE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1Lq79mLeE
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    How come? What about it do you appreciate?
Thoreandan 3y ago
Hugged to death?
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  Yeah partially, it's just a AlphaServer DS20 500 MHz (2 CPU's) https://web.archive.org/web/20230614005544/https://eisner.decus.org/online/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230614005544/https://eisner.de...
doublerabbit 3y ago
It's a shame polar-home closed. [0] Polarhome was a free project where you could obtain a shell on many different operating systems. Nothing fancy hosted on some guys Swedish internet within his basement of servers. Discovered it when I was 13 and that brought me in to the world of Unix, Linux and Minix. Hosted my first ever blog, introduced me to shell's and compiling Apache to your own shell, I weep on how you can now click a button and have some $webinstance. I miss those times. While reminiscing, credits to a guy called Stingray who I met on try2hack.nl in the Netherlands who gave me my first ever box hosted on his home net. I feel privileged for the freedom of internet I had back then compared to now. Folks just don't know. Talk about triggered. Oh look, FreeBSD finished compiling. >>> World build completed on Sat Nov 18 11:44:33 GMT 2023 >>> World built in 973 seconds, ncpu: 80, make -j79 [0] http://polarhome.com/ http://polarhome.com/
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  You know i was thinking since years doing something like sdf.org but with jails. Where every user has a jail for themselves, but also a instance where every user can login into the same system ala sdf.
- jetbalsa 3y ago
  There are some old unix shell providers still floating around. I'm still a active user of sdf.org
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  I recall back in the earliest 90s anybody could get a free telnet accessible shell account on one of the GNU ai.mit.edu servers. I used one like that for a time. Really was a different Internet back then.
justin66 3y ago
What’s the secret to getting an application for an OpenVMS community license approved? I’ve gone through the process and replied to the email, etc. three times in the past six months.
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  Can you login into https://sp.vmssoftware.com https://sp.vmssoftware.com ? The license and everything else is there.
  - justin66 3y ago
    I don't think so? I don't know what username and password I would use. (edit: after reading your message to someone else in similar straights, I'm curious: what is this login screen?) I've done the form here, several times: https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/ https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/ And clicked on the email confirmation link("Visit the following link to confirm your request") after receiving the email, several times. That's it, that's all I know.
    - BSDobelix 3y ago
      Try with your email and reset the password
      - justin66 3y ago
        It says my email is not found, which does not surprise me, since this appears to be something I never signed up for. I will admit to some amusement at this error: Error 404: Email not found. Is that what this 404 message I keep seeing on the internet means? Thanks anyway! I guess I could email somebody on their team or something.
vkaku 3y ago
Thank you for sharing. This is awesome. To everyone here who wants to try running OpenVMS natively today, they can run it on an x86-64 machine (includes AMD processors). Check out VMS Software and apply for a community license.
- VK538FY 3y ago
  Well one applies and waits. Me: no news since May.
  - BSDobelix 3y ago
    Can you try to reset your password at https://sp.vmssoftware.com https://sp.vmssoftware.com ?
    - VK538FY 3y ago
      Unfortunately no.
  - justin66 3y ago
    Ah. I guess I'm not the only one.
mikewarot 3y ago
I first encountered VAX/VMS on a VAX 11/780 at Rose-Hulman in 1981, and was in awe of a machine that could do a million floating point operations per second! Recently, I got one running in SimH in my android phone, and it runs OpenVMS 7.3. Telnetting into the VAX in my pocket was something I just had to do. I too haven't been able to get a community license for the x86 port, yet.
zoomablemind 3y ago
> ... Tera Term https://github.com/TeraTermProject/osdn-download/releases https://github.com/TeraTermProject/osdn-download/releases Surprised to find that Tera Term is still actively supported and has recent releases. I knew it as a nice and simple term emulator from quite some years back. Though Windows only still.

70 points by BSDobelix 3y ago

I got my start on OpenVMS at DECUServe 5 years ago: https://raymii.org/s/blog/My_first_OpenVMS.html https://raymii.org/s/blog/My_first_OpenVMS.html Friendly community! But now OpenVMS is available on x86 and you can run it in VirtualBox yourself: https://raymii.org/s/blog/OpenVMS_9.2_for_x86_Getting_Started.html https://raymii.org/s/blog/OpenVMS_9.2_for_x86_Getting_Starte...

BSDobelix 3y ago
Hey! Thank you very much for your blog, got (again) into OpenVMS X86 because of it! BTW when do you blog about a cluster setup? ;)
- mrlonglong 3y ago
  Sign me up for this too!
- jandeboevrie 3y ago
  It's on my todo list! I hope to integrate it with some modern software like haproxy or the built in Apache fork, next to file sharing etc.
  - BSDobelix 3y ago
    ATM i test OpenJDK with Yacy, clustering Yacy via OpenVMS is next ;)
  - mechanicker 3y ago
    Samba for file sharing? I led development efforts for the first Samba release on VMS (IA64) working at HP. It was not performant enough compared to ASV but we were on the right path.
mrlonglong 3y ago
I've worked with VMS in the early 90s. Still my favourite operating system, and I'm really happy they ported it to the x86 architecture.
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  If you haven't already seen it some story's from Andy Goldstein[1]. The quality of OpenVMS is really something else, also repeated from Dave Cutler[2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vASxBpf4ti0&list=PLewDXk9a8laNlQzg0KBGUqzB_ZzwCy4DO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vASxBpf4ti0&list=PLewDXk9a8l... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1Lq79mLeE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1Lq79mLeE
- kstrauser 3y ago
  How come? What about it do you appreciate?

Thoreandan 3y ago

Hugged to death?

BSDobelix 3y ago
Yeah partially, it's just a AlphaServer DS20 500 MHz (2 CPU's) https://web.archive.org/web/20230614005544/https://eisner.decus.org/online/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230614005544/https://eisner.de...

doublerabbit 3y ago

It's a shame polar-home closed. [0] Polarhome was a free project where you could obtain a shell on many different operating systems. Nothing fancy hosted on some guys Swedish internet within his basement of servers. Discovered it when I was 13 and that brought me in to the world of Unix, Linux and Minix. Hosted my first ever blog, introduced me to shell's and compiling Apache to your own shell, I weep on how you can now click a button and have some $webinstance. I miss those times. While reminiscing, credits to a guy called Stingray who I met on try2hack.nl in the Netherlands who gave me my first ever box hosted on his home net. I feel privileged for the freedom of internet I had back then compared to now. Folks just don't know. Talk about triggered. Oh look, FreeBSD finished compiling. >>> World build completed on Sat Nov 18 11:44:33 GMT 2023 >>> World built in 973 seconds, ncpu: 80, make -j79 [0] http://polarhome.com/ http://polarhome.com/

BSDobelix 3y ago
You know i was thinking since years doing something like sdf.org but with jails. Where every user has a jail for themselves, but also a instance where every user can login into the same system ala sdf.
jetbalsa 3y ago
There are some old unix shell providers still floating around. I'm still a active user of sdf.org
cmrdporcupine 3y ago
I recall back in the earliest 90s anybody could get a free telnet accessible shell account on one of the GNU ai.mit.edu servers. I used one like that for a time. Really was a different Internet back then.

justin66 3y ago

What’s the secret to getting an application for an OpenVMS community license approved? I’ve gone through the process and replied to the email, etc. three times in the past six months.

BSDobelix 3y ago
Can you login into https://sp.vmssoftware.com https://sp.vmssoftware.com ? The license and everything else is there.
- justin66 3y ago
  I don't think so? I don't know what username and password I would use. (edit: after reading your message to someone else in similar straights, I'm curious: what is this login screen?) I've done the form here, several times: https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/ https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/ And clicked on the email confirmation link("Visit the following link to confirm your request") after receiving the email, several times. That's it, that's all I know.
  - BSDobelix 3y ago
    Try with your email and reset the password
    - justin66 3y ago
      It says my email is not found, which does not surprise me, since this appears to be something I never signed up for. I will admit to some amusement at this error: Error 404: Email not found. Is that what this 404 message I keep seeing on the internet means? Thanks anyway! I guess I could email somebody on their team or something.

vkaku 3y ago

Thank you for sharing. This is awesome. To everyone here who wants to try running OpenVMS natively today, they can run it on an x86-64 machine (includes AMD processors). Check out VMS Software and apply for a community license.

VK538FY 3y ago
Well one applies and waits. Me: no news since May.
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  Can you try to reset your password at https://sp.vmssoftware.com https://sp.vmssoftware.com ?
  - VK538FY 3y ago
    Unfortunately no.
- justin66 3y ago
  Ah. I guess I'm not the only one.

mikewarot 3y ago

I first encountered VAX/VMS on a VAX 11/780 at Rose-Hulman in 1981, and was in awe of a machine that could do a million floating point operations per second! Recently, I got one running in SimH in my android phone, and it runs OpenVMS 7.3. Telnetting into the VAX in my pocket was something I just had to do. I too haven't been able to get a community license for the x86 port, yet.

zoomablemind 3y ago

> ... Tera Term https://github.com/TeraTermProject/osdn-download/releases https://github.com/TeraTermProject/osdn-download/releases Surprised to find that Tera Term is still actively supported and has recent releases. I knew it as a nice and simple term emulator from quite some years back. Though Windows only still.