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Happy. I never heard him say anything even remotely interesting about ai. He seemed a glib opportunist just not dumb enough to know how to sell a product he did

by autaut 3y ago

Happy. I never heard him say anything even remotely interesting about ai. He seemed a glib opportunist just not dumb enough to know how to sell a product he didn’t understand who eventually would have alienated or pushed out all the smart people who made the company’s and his success.

mojuba 3y ago
> I never heard him say anything even remotely interesting about ai Or about anything at all really. I find his blog posts and talks banal and boring, or self-aggrandizing otherwise ("you can bend the world to your will") it was always baffling to me how this guy could achieve this much. I'm probably missing something.
- avindroth 3y ago
  Yeah. pg/chesky/masayoshi must be really dumb or sth.
  - kmlevitt 3y ago
    Masayoshi really is dumb. PG is smart but he’s a venture capitalist, and so is Sam. His strength is in helping building multi billion dollar ventures and that’s how he ran the company, so I can see how he could run into ideological conflict with the nonprofit true believers. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2023/11/08/companies/softbank-masayoshi-son-wework/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2023/11/08/companies/s...
  - throwawaymaroon 3y ago
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- rg111 3y ago
  "how this guy could achieve this much" With all the wisdom that I have gathered in life, I can tell you that achievement- more often than not- is mostly the product of circumstances. (That doesn't mean I believe in equal opportunities leading to equal outcomes.)
  - mojuba 3y ago
    It's circumstances and opportunism.
- autaut 3y ago
  He achieved because he manage to befriend a bunch of very rich people who are financing him to eventually take ownership of the technology
spend_thrift 3y ago
So you don't think the "AI device" he was working with Johnny Ive and Masayoshi Son would have worked out...
justanotherjoe 3y ago
So what. You dont have to be smart to run something well. See joe biden. It doesnt matter what can be said of you if you're doing the thing. Whats weird is throwing wrench into an engine thats doing really well. Hopefully there is some good deliberation for this.
tjpnz 3y ago
Based on Worldcoin and the Lex Fridman interviews I've long suspected his influence at OpenAI to be limited.
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by autaut 3y ago

mojuba 3y ago

> I never heard him say anything even remotely interesting about ai Or about anything at all really. I find his blog posts and talks banal and boring, or self-aggrandizing otherwise ("you can bend the world to your will") it was always baffling to me how this guy could achieve this much. I'm probably missing something.

avindroth 3y ago
Yeah. pg/chesky/masayoshi must be really dumb or sth.
- kmlevitt 3y ago
  Masayoshi really is dumb. PG is smart but he’s a venture capitalist, and so is Sam. His strength is in helping building multi billion dollar ventures and that’s how he ran the company, so I can see how he could run into ideological conflict with the nonprofit true believers. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2023/11/08/companies/softbank-masayoshi-son-wework/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2023/11/08/companies/s...
- throwawaymaroon 3y ago
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rg111 3y ago
"how this guy could achieve this much" With all the wisdom that I have gathered in life, I can tell you that achievement- more often than not- is mostly the product of circumstances. (That doesn't mean I believe in equal opportunities leading to equal outcomes.)
- mojuba 3y ago
  It's circumstances and opportunism.
autaut 3y ago
He achieved because he manage to befriend a bunch of very rich people who are financing him to eventually take ownership of the technology

spend_thrift 3y ago

So you don't think the "AI device" he was working with Johnny Ive and Masayoshi Son would have worked out...

justanotherjoe 3y ago

So what. You dont have to be smart to run something well. See joe biden. It doesnt matter what can be said of you if you're doing the thing. Whats weird is throwing wrench into an engine thats doing really well. Hopefully there is some good deliberation for this.

tjpnz 3y ago

Based on Worldcoin and the Lex Fridman interviews I've long suspected his influence at OpenAI to be limited.

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