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You know this doesn't seem like a bad deal though $100/mo might be high for someone just starting out. Right now my options for search are: Full text SQL sea

by jtchang 15y ago

You know this doesn't seem like a bad deal though $100/mo might be high for someone just starting out. Right now my options for search are: Full text SQL search Apache Solr or something similar Google Search Appliance Custom search Google free search on your site Yay for search as a service.

zackattack 15y ago
Yeah, there's a side project I've been wanting to build for a long time, and it needs search. But the way these prices have been presented, it seems that CloudSearch is just not economically feasible for a SaaS / free multiuser offering.
- Ecio78 15y ago
  I'm in the same situation, and I'm thinkin about using Solr in a vps or trying one of those hosted cloud solr solutions
- nl 15y ago
  CloudSearch is just not economically feasible for a SaaS / free multiuser offering Are you saying it is too much? WebSolr etc have options that are cheaper.
  - Ecio78 15y ago
    Looking for hosted Solr solutions I found also: http://www.opensolr.com/ http://www.opensolr.com/ http://www.solrhq.com/ http://www.solrhq.com/ http://www.midwesternmac.com/services/hosted-solr-search http://www.midwesternmac.com/services/hosted-solr-search http://www.netaphorsearch.com/products/solr-hosting http://www.netaphorsearch.com/products/solr-hosting http://www.acquia.com/products-services/acquia-network/cloud-services/acquia-search http://www.acquia.com/products-services/acquia-network/cloud... (they're mainly targeted to drupal) anything else?
    - edouard1234567 15y ago
      http://websolr.com/plans http://websolr.com/plans
      - Ecio78 15y ago
        "also" = additional to the already cited websolr ;)
        friendlytuna 15y ago
        And there's also LucidWorks Cloud. http://www.lucidimagination.com/products/lucidworks-search-platform/cloud http://www.lucidimagination.com/products/lucidworks-search-p... Lucid Imagination is run by some of the most experienced Solr and Lucene devs. Specifically Yonik Seeley, who created Solr.
- nl 15y ago
  CloudSearch is just not economically feasible for a SaaS / free multiuser offering Are you saying it is too much? WebSolr etc have options that are cheaper.
- hkarthik 15y ago
  Solr or Sphinx based searching is what pushed me out of most of the PaaS offerings and into my own VPS. It's unfortunate that most of the hosted services out there are too expensive for side projects. When I looked at WebSolr, the cost exceeded my entire VPS structure, even for their cheapest plans.
  - nzadrozny 15y ago
    We think our prices actually compare pretty well to self-hosting. Hosting a search engine is not cheap when it comes to memory and disk IO, and I don't envy anyone trying to shoehorn production Solr traffic into a small VPS. Not to mention, we've got transparent replicated redundancy on all our indexes—one of our better-kept secrets, I really need to update our marketing materials—so double your VPSs there.
    - hkarthik 15y ago
      After setting Solr up, I definitely see the value that you guys provide for high traffic sites. But there's a difference between production level needs and hobbyist level needs for a side projects. For side projects I'd be okay with indexing being less aggressive, sizes being more restrictive, and response times being higher if that made the pricing more accessible. I'd be happy to give you guys more money when I've got the traffic to justify it, but it'd be nice to be able to flip that on when I need it.
Ecio78 15y ago
Yes, but the billing is hourly based as usual: You'll be billed based on the number of running search instances. There are three search instance sizes (Small, Large, and Extra Large) at prices ranging from $0.12 to $0.68 per hour (these are US East Region prices, since that's where we are launching CloudSearch). PS It looks like it's initially available only in US East Region
johns 15y ago
There's also: Searchify, Running the full open sourced IndexTank Search as a Service API HoundSleuth, IndexTank Compatible API IndexTanktoGO, IndexTank Compatible API Bimaple, IndexTank Compatible API IndexDen, IndexTank Compatible API
- nzadrozny 15y ago
  You seem to like IndexTank ;) There's also my own http://websolr.com/ http://websolr.com/ running Apache Solr. Some other Solr services are mentioned elsewhere on the page. I've also recently launched http://bonsai.io/ http://bonsai.io/ for a hosted ElasticSearch service. Because ElasticSearch is actually quite awesome (and I'm happy to answer questions about why). For Sphinx, there's Flying Sphinx (by Pat Allen of Thinking Sphinx Ruby client fame, great guy), and IndexDen (which is Sphinx, not IndexTank).
  - StavrosK 15y ago
    So, why is ElasticSearch awesome, apart from being a searchable document/JSON store? That's pretty obviously awesome :P
    - nzadrozny 15y ago
      There's a lot to be said for ElasticSearch's data distribution. It does sharding and replication really well. That makes my life easier, as a service provider, as well as the life of anyone that has to manage and scale an ES cluster. Or who doesn't want to have to deal with client-side sharding or worry about how many servers can crash before their search goes down. Here's a good video on the subject from ElasticSearch's creator: http://vimeo.com/26710663 http://vimeo.com/26710663 ElasticSearch has very little ceremony around creating a new index and getting started with using it. You will eventually need to do some configuration to tune its behavior for your specific application, but the learning curve is nice and gradual. This makes ES great for exploration. The JSON document store aspect of ElasticSearch is indeed very nice. The RESTful API is simple enough that you don't really need a client, just grab your favorite HTTP client library and start integrating. Plus, coupled with solid distribution, you're looking at a pretty viable standalone data store, IMO. Also, very good documentation. And its user/developer community is all full of the really smart, enthusiastic early-adopter types right now :) Not least, Lucene itself is hands down the last word when it comes to search.
rb2k_ 15y ago
And if you want a hassle free scalable search service with automatic sharding/scaling, a lucene underpinning and a nice REST API: Elasticsearch
- deleted 15y ago
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- espeed 15y ago
  IndexTank is now open source and the code is here (http://engineering.linkedin.com/open-source/indextank-now-open-source http://engineering.linkedin.com/open-source/indextank-now-op...).
- Mikushi 15y ago
  And if you want an actually good search product there is always SphinxSearch.
  - avar 15y ago
    Why wouldn't you consider ElasticSearch to be an "actually good search product" ?
  - cmiles74 15y ago
    Why the bashing on Elasticsearch? We are using it to index log files; we have over 275 million documents in our index and performance has been pretty impressive.
    - deleted 15y ago
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    - PanMan 15y ago
      What kind of hardware are you running that on? We are setting up a larger cluster, and are interested in the config of others. Thnx!
      - cmiles74 15y ago
damncabbage 15y ago
And for the joke entry: Yahoo! BOSS (http://developer.yahoo.com/search/boss/ http://developer.yahoo.com/search/boss/)

by jtchang 15y ago

zackattack 15y ago

Yeah, there's a side project I've been wanting to build for a long time, and it needs search. But the way these prices have been presented, it seems that CloudSearch is just not economically feasible for a SaaS / free multiuser offering.

Ecio78 15y ago
I'm in the same situation, and I'm thinkin about using Solr in a vps or trying one of those hosted cloud solr solutions
nl 15y ago
CloudSearch is just not economically feasible for a SaaS / free multiuser offering Are you saying it is too much? WebSolr etc have options that are cheaper.
- Ecio78 15y ago
  Looking for hosted Solr solutions I found also: http://www.opensolr.com/ http://www.opensolr.com/ http://www.solrhq.com/ http://www.solrhq.com/ http://www.midwesternmac.com/services/hosted-solr-search http://www.midwesternmac.com/services/hosted-solr-search http://www.netaphorsearch.com/products/solr-hosting http://www.netaphorsearch.com/products/solr-hosting http://www.acquia.com/products-services/acquia-network/cloud-services/acquia-search http://www.acquia.com/products-services/acquia-network/cloud... (they're mainly targeted to drupal) anything else?
  - edouard1234567 15y ago
    http://websolr.com/plans http://websolr.com/plans
    - Ecio78 15y ago
      "also" = additional to the already cited websolr ;)
      - friendlytuna 15y ago
        And there's also LucidWorks Cloud. http://www.lucidimagination.com/products/lucidworks-search-platform/cloud http://www.lucidimagination.com/products/lucidworks-search-p... Lucid Imagination is run by some of the most experienced Solr and Lucene devs. Specifically Yonik Seeley, who created Solr.
nl 15y ago
CloudSearch is just not economically feasible for a SaaS / free multiuser offering Are you saying it is too much? WebSolr etc have options that are cheaper.
hkarthik 15y ago
Solr or Sphinx based searching is what pushed me out of most of the PaaS offerings and into my own VPS. It's unfortunate that most of the hosted services out there are too expensive for side projects. When I looked at WebSolr, the cost exceeded my entire VPS structure, even for their cheapest plans.
- nzadrozny 15y ago
  We think our prices actually compare pretty well to self-hosting. Hosting a search engine is not cheap when it comes to memory and disk IO, and I don't envy anyone trying to shoehorn production Solr traffic into a small VPS. Not to mention, we've got transparent replicated redundancy on all our indexes—one of our better-kept secrets, I really need to update our marketing materials—so double your VPSs there.
  - hkarthik 15y ago
    After setting Solr up, I definitely see the value that you guys provide for high traffic sites. But there's a difference between production level needs and hobbyist level needs for a side projects. For side projects I'd be okay with indexing being less aggressive, sizes being more restrictive, and response times being higher if that made the pricing more accessible. I'd be happy to give you guys more money when I've got the traffic to justify it, but it'd be nice to be able to flip that on when I need it.

Ecio78 15y ago

Yes, but the billing is hourly based as usual: You'll be billed based on the number of running search instances. There are three search instance sizes (Small, Large, and Extra Large) at prices ranging from $0.12 to $0.68 per hour (these are US East Region prices, since that's where we are launching CloudSearch). PS It looks like it's initially available only in US East Region

johns 15y ago

There's also: Searchify, Running the full open sourced IndexTank Search as a Service API HoundSleuth, IndexTank Compatible API IndexTanktoGO, IndexTank Compatible API Bimaple, IndexTank Compatible API IndexDen, IndexTank Compatible API

nzadrozny 15y ago
You seem to like IndexTank ;) There's also my own http://websolr.com/ http://websolr.com/ running Apache Solr. Some other Solr services are mentioned elsewhere on the page. I've also recently launched http://bonsai.io/ http://bonsai.io/ for a hosted ElasticSearch service. Because ElasticSearch is actually quite awesome (and I'm happy to answer questions about why). For Sphinx, there's Flying Sphinx (by Pat Allen of Thinking Sphinx Ruby client fame, great guy), and IndexDen (which is Sphinx, not IndexTank).
- StavrosK 15y ago
  So, why is ElasticSearch awesome, apart from being a searchable document/JSON store? That's pretty obviously awesome :P
  - nzadrozny 15y ago
    There's a lot to be said for ElasticSearch's data distribution. It does sharding and replication really well. That makes my life easier, as a service provider, as well as the life of anyone that has to manage and scale an ES cluster. Or who doesn't want to have to deal with client-side sharding or worry about how many servers can crash before their search goes down. Here's a good video on the subject from ElasticSearch's creator: http://vimeo.com/26710663 http://vimeo.com/26710663 ElasticSearch has very little ceremony around creating a new index and getting started with using it. You will eventually need to do some configuration to tune its behavior for your specific application, but the learning curve is nice and gradual. This makes ES great for exploration. The JSON document store aspect of ElasticSearch is indeed very nice. The RESTful API is simple enough that you don't really need a client, just grab your favorite HTTP client library and start integrating. Plus, coupled with solid distribution, you're looking at a pretty viable standalone data store, IMO. Also, very good documentation. And its user/developer community is all full of the really smart, enthusiastic early-adopter types right now :) Not least, Lucene itself is hands down the last word when it comes to search.

rb2k_ 15y ago

And if you want a hassle free scalable search service with automatic sharding/scaling, a lucene underpinning and a nice REST API: Elasticsearch

deleted 15y ago
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espeed 15y ago
IndexTank is now open source and the code is here (http://engineering.linkedin.com/open-source/indextank-now-open-source http://engineering.linkedin.com/open-source/indextank-now-op...).
Mikushi 15y ago
And if you want an actually good search product there is always SphinxSearch.
- avar 15y ago
  Why wouldn't you consider ElasticSearch to be an "actually good search product" ?
- cmiles74 15y ago
  Why the bashing on Elasticsearch? We are using it to index log files; we have over 275 million documents in our index and performance has been pretty impressive.
  - deleted 15y ago
    [deleted]
  - PanMan 15y ago
    What kind of hardware are you running that on? We are setting up a larger cluster, and are interested in the config of others. Thnx!
    - cmiles74 15y ago

damncabbage 15y ago

And for the joke entry: Yahoo! BOSS (http://developer.yahoo.com/search/boss/ http://developer.yahoo.com/search/boss/)