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He's already set for life rich

by jeffwask 3y ago

ljm 3y ago
Plus, he succeeded in making HN the most boring forum ever. 8 out of 10 posts are about LLMs.
- oldgradstudent 3y ago
  The other two are written by LLMs.
- voisin 3y ago
  [flagged]
- cpeth 3y ago
  In terms of impact, LLMs might be the biggest leap forward in computing history, surpassing the internet and mobile computing. And we are just at the dawn of it. Even if not full AGI, computers can now understand humans and reason. The excitement is justified.
  - MrVandemar 3y ago
    Nah. LLM's are hype-machines capable of writing their own hype. Q: What's the difference between a car salesman and an LLM? A: The car salesman knows they're lying to you.
    - MVissers 3y ago
      Who says the LLM’s don’t know? Testing with GPT-4 showed that they were clearly capable of knowingly lying.
      - nativeit 3y ago
        This is all devolving into layers of semantics, but, “…capable of knowingly lying,” is not the same as “knows when it’s lying,” and I think the latter is far more problematic.
    - SamPatt 3y ago
      Nonsense. I was a semi-technical writer who went from only making static websites to building fully interactive Javascript apps in a few weeks when I first got ChatGPT. I enjoyed it so much I'm now switching careers into software development. GPT-4 is the best tutor and troubleshooter I've ever had. If it's not useful to you then I'm guessing you're either using it wrong or you're never trying anything new / challenging.
      - dilDDoS 3y ago
        > If it's not useful to you then I'm guessing you're either using it wrong or you're never trying anything new / challenging. That’s a bold statement coming from someone with (respectfully) not very much experience with programming. I’ve tried using GPT-4 for my work that involves firmware engineering, as well as some design questions regarding backend web services in Go, and it was pretty unhelpful in both cases (and at times dangerous in memory constrained environments). That being said, I’m not willing to write it off completely. I’m sure it’s useful for some like yourself and not useful for others like me. But ultimately the world of programming extends way beyond JavaScript apps. Especially when it comes to things that are new and challenging.
        SamPatt 3y ago
        I don't mean new and challenging in some general sense, I mean new and challenging to you personally. I have no doubt someone with more experience such as yourself will find GPT-4 less useful for your highly specialized work. The next time you are a beginner again - not necessarily even in technical work - give it a try.
      - MrVandemar 3y ago
        >If it's not useful to you then I'm guessing you're either using it wrong or you're never trying anything new / challenging. Please quote me where I say it wasn't useful, and respond directly. Please quote me where I say I had problems using it, or give any indications I was using it wrong, and respond directly. Please quote me where I state a conservative attitude towards anything new or challenging, and respond directly. Except I never did or said any of those things. Are you "hallucinating"?
  - cthalupa 3y ago
    'Understand' and 'reason' are pretty loaded terms. I think many people would disagree with you that LLMs can truly do either.
voisin 3y ago
Is he? Loopy only sold for $40m and then he managed YC and then OpenAI on a salary? Where are the riches from?
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  https://www.thestreet.com/investors/sam-altman-net-worth-how-does-he-make-money https://www.thestreet.com/investors/sam-altman-net-worth-how...
worldsayshi 3y ago
There's 'set for life' rich and then there's 'able to start a space company with full control' rich.
- jeffwask 3y ago
  I don't understand that mental illness. If I hit low 8 figures, I pack it in and jump off the hamster wheel.

He's already set for life rich

ljm 3y ago

Plus, he succeeded in making HN the most boring forum ever. 8 out of 10 posts are about LLMs.

oldgradstudent 3y ago
The other two are written by LLMs.
voisin 3y ago
[flagged]
cpeth 3y ago
In terms of impact, LLMs might be the biggest leap forward in computing history, surpassing the internet and mobile computing. And we are just at the dawn of it. Even if not full AGI, computers can now understand humans and reason. The excitement is justified.
- MrVandemar 3y ago
  Nah. LLM's are hype-machines capable of writing their own hype. Q: What's the difference between a car salesman and an LLM? A: The car salesman knows they're lying to you.
  - MVissers 3y ago
    Who says the LLM’s don’t know? Testing with GPT-4 showed that they were clearly capable of knowingly lying.
    - nativeit 3y ago
      This is all devolving into layers of semantics, but, “…capable of knowingly lying,” is not the same as “knows when it’s lying,” and I think the latter is far more problematic.
  - SamPatt 3y ago
    Nonsense. I was a semi-technical writer who went from only making static websites to building fully interactive Javascript apps in a few weeks when I first got ChatGPT. I enjoyed it so much I'm now switching careers into software development. GPT-4 is the best tutor and troubleshooter I've ever had. If it's not useful to you then I'm guessing you're either using it wrong or you're never trying anything new / challenging.
    - dilDDoS 3y ago
      > If it's not useful to you then I'm guessing you're either using it wrong or you're never trying anything new / challenging. That’s a bold statement coming from someone with (respectfully) not very much experience with programming. I’ve tried using GPT-4 for my work that involves firmware engineering, as well as some design questions regarding backend web services in Go, and it was pretty unhelpful in both cases (and at times dangerous in memory constrained environments). That being said, I’m not willing to write it off completely. I’m sure it’s useful for some like yourself and not useful for others like me. But ultimately the world of programming extends way beyond JavaScript apps. Especially when it comes to things that are new and challenging.
      - SamPatt 3y ago
        I don't mean new and challenging in some general sense, I mean new and challenging to you personally. I have no doubt someone with more experience such as yourself will find GPT-4 less useful for your highly specialized work. The next time you are a beginner again - not necessarily even in technical work - give it a try.
    - MrVandemar 3y ago
      >If it's not useful to you then I'm guessing you're either using it wrong or you're never trying anything new / challenging. Please quote me where I say it wasn't useful, and respond directly. Please quote me where I say I had problems using it, or give any indications I was using it wrong, and respond directly. Please quote me where I state a conservative attitude towards anything new or challenging, and respond directly. Except I never did or said any of those things. Are you "hallucinating"?
- cthalupa 3y ago
  'Understand' and 'reason' are pretty loaded terms. I think many people would disagree with you that LLMs can truly do either.

voisin 3y ago

Is he? Loopy only sold for $40m and then he managed YC and then OpenAI on a salary? Where are the riches from?

dragonwriter 3y ago
https://www.thestreet.com/investors/sam-altman-net-worth-how-does-he-make-money https://www.thestreet.com/investors/sam-altman-net-worth-how...

worldsayshi 3y ago

There's 'set for life' rich and then there's 'able to start a space company with full control' rich.

jeffwask 3y ago
I don't understand that mental illness. If I hit low 8 figures, I pack it in and jump off the hamster wheel.