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Apple, Disney and IBM to pause ads on X after antisemitic Elon Musk tweet

23 points by cratermoon 3y ago

tomohawk 3y ago
You can't make this stuff up. https://babylonbee.com/news/we-cannot-be-associated-with-elon-musk-says-tim-cook-while-shaking-hands-with-brutal-chinese-dictator https://babylonbee.com/news/we-cannot-be-associated-with-elo...
- cratermoon 3y ago
  Ah my old friend Whataboutism. We meet again. https://theconversation.com/whataboutism-what-it-is-and-why-its-such-a-popular-tactic-in-arguments-182911 https://theconversation.com/whataboutism-what-it-is-and-why-...
  - fred_is_fred 3y ago
    It's a satire site.
    - cratermoon 3y ago
      Yes I know. The satire is still whataboutism. The "just joking, bro" response doesn't excuse it.
- rexpop 3y ago
  It's apples to oranges, of course. Apple is one of the largest and most profitable companies in the world, and China is one of its most important markets. According to Apple's 2023 annual report, China accounted for 14.6% of its total revenue, or $42.5 billion, making it the third-largest region after the Americas and Europe. Apple also relies on China for its supply chain, as many of its products are manufactured or assembled by Chinese companies such as Foxconn and Lens Technology. Obviously, Apple tolerates China's human rights abuses because of its financial interest and dependence on the Chinese market and suppliers.
- fred_is_fred 3y ago
  I guess nobody knows it's a satire site.
  - skinnymuch 3y ago
    I think people know. It reads so bad it obviously isn’t real to any one who didn’t know beforehand.
- skinnymuch 3y ago
  Yes China has the brutal dictator and America is a liberal Democratic free land for all. Maybe American propaganda isn’t always correct? Have you seen the coverage given to events in the Middle East in American media? The same BS Babylon Bee believes to be true?
InvestorType 3y ago
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madcadmium 3y ago
That's rich coming from IBM
wnevets 3y ago
Negative stories about Twitter and Elon don't seem to stay on the front page of HN long these days. I wonder if this one will be different
macilacilove 3y ago
So the tweet says "Communities of some people A push hate against people B" I assume these companies are standing up for a moral principle. The principle is that communities in general are incapable of hate so any such accusation is worthless at best or actively harmful? Or is it that in the specific instances of A and B it is not true? But then it is a weaker principle because truth sometimes can not be known for certain.

23 points by cratermoon 3y ago

You can't make this stuff up. https://babylonbee.com/news/we-cannot-be-associated-with-elon-musk-says-tim-cook-while-shaking-hands-with-brutal-chinese-dictator https://babylonbee.com/news/we-cannot-be-associated-with-elo...

cratermoon 3y ago
Ah my old friend Whataboutism. We meet again. https://theconversation.com/whataboutism-what-it-is-and-why-its-such-a-popular-tactic-in-arguments-182911 https://theconversation.com/whataboutism-what-it-is-and-why-...
- fred_is_fred 3y ago
  It's a satire site.
  - cratermoon 3y ago
    Yes I know. The satire is still whataboutism. The "just joking, bro" response doesn't excuse it.
rexpop 3y ago
It's apples to oranges, of course. Apple is one of the largest and most profitable companies in the world, and China is one of its most important markets. According to Apple's 2023 annual report, China accounted for 14.6% of its total revenue, or $42.5 billion, making it the third-largest region after the Americas and Europe. Apple also relies on China for its supply chain, as many of its products are manufactured or assembled by Chinese companies such as Foxconn and Lens Technology. Obviously, Apple tolerates China's human rights abuses because of its financial interest and dependence on the Chinese market and suppliers.
fred_is_fred 3y ago
I guess nobody knows it's a satire site.
- skinnymuch 3y ago
  I think people know. It reads so bad it obviously isn’t real to any one who didn’t know beforehand.
skinnymuch 3y ago
Yes China has the brutal dictator and America is a liberal Democratic free land for all. Maybe American propaganda isn’t always correct? Have you seen the coverage given to events in the Middle East in American media? The same BS Babylon Bee believes to be true?

InvestorType 3y ago

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madcadmium 3y ago

That's rich coming from IBM

wnevets 3y ago

Negative stories about Twitter and Elon don't seem to stay on the front page of HN long these days. I wonder if this one will be different

macilacilove 3y ago

So the tweet says "Communities of some people A push hate against people B" I assume these companies are standing up for a moral principle. The principle is that communities in general are incapable of hate so any such accusation is worthless at best or actively harmful? Or is it that in the specific instances of A and B it is not true? But then it is a weaker principle because truth sometimes can not be known for certain.