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The times of inferior chinese products are pretty much gone. I would even argue that in some cases they are better.

WanderPanda 3y ago
I think it is still true that they have a higher dynamic range. They can build on the highest level of quality (iPhone, DJI) but also produce loads of cheap but dangerous stuff.
pengaru 3y ago
> The times of inferior chinese products are pretty much gone. I would even argue that in some cases they are better. You and I must have absolutely zero overlap in our Amazon purchases.
- Turskarama 3y ago
  Keep in mind that vehicle safety is heavily regulated pretty much everywhere, and once you've paid the money necessary to make your car safe you might as well make it not garbage as well or nobody will buy your product. Since they're making cars for international markets they have to meet safety standards for the entire world, which are stricter than those for any one country and so harder to meet. You can't compare them to the shitty airpod ripoffs you get for $60.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    > Since they're making cars for international markets they have to meet safety standards for the entire world, which are stricter than those for any one country and so harder to meet. They'd have the scale to manufacture for individual markets, like any large auto manufacturer. Already I've seen videos/articles of people buying various (typically non-EV) cheap Asian vehicles that are not road-worthy in the US, but allowed for use on large parcels of land.
  - nradov 3y ago
    Some Chinese car models are now achieving top ratings on crash safety tests. https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/nio-sets-the-bar-high-in-euro-ncap-s-newly-updated-2023-safety-tests/ https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/nio-s...
    - rootusrootus 3y ago
      This is a very recent development, and only happened because China started importing talent from places that know how to make good safe cars.
  - psychlops 3y ago
    For example, no car company would ever cheat on emission standards because regulations. Heavy regulations are what produce the reputable finance and healthcare industries we enjoy today.
    - ponector 3y ago
      Have you heard about Dieselgate?
      - psychlops 3y ago
        To what do you think I was referring? Did that comment need a /sarc tag?
- Qwertious 3y ago
  That's not the Chinese products though, that's Amazon natively supporting the faulty knock-off market. Every country has rort factories, if you look hard enough. And Amazon's binning system is perfectly designed to platform them to captive audiences.
mensetmanusman 3y ago
They cant control their own counterfeit supply chain, so we will never know until they do.

I think it is still true that they have a higher dynamic range. They can build on the highest level of quality (iPhone, DJI) but also produce loads of cheap but dangerous stuff.

pengaru 3y ago

> The times of inferior chinese products are pretty much gone. I would even argue that in some cases they are better. You and I must have absolutely zero overlap in our Amazon purchases.

Turskarama 3y ago
Keep in mind that vehicle safety is heavily regulated pretty much everywhere, and once you've paid the money necessary to make your car safe you might as well make it not garbage as well or nobody will buy your product. Since they're making cars for international markets they have to meet safety standards for the entire world, which are stricter than those for any one country and so harder to meet. You can't compare them to the shitty airpod ripoffs you get for $60.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  > Since they're making cars for international markets they have to meet safety standards for the entire world, which are stricter than those for any one country and so harder to meet. They'd have the scale to manufacture for individual markets, like any large auto manufacturer. Already I've seen videos/articles of people buying various (typically non-EV) cheap Asian vehicles that are not road-worthy in the US, but allowed for use on large parcels of land.
- nradov 3y ago
  Some Chinese car models are now achieving top ratings on crash safety tests. https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/nio-sets-the-bar-high-in-euro-ncap-s-newly-updated-2023-safety-tests/ https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/nio-s...
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    This is a very recent development, and only happened because China started importing talent from places that know how to make good safe cars.
- psychlops 3y ago
  For example, no car company would ever cheat on emission standards because regulations. Heavy regulations are what produce the reputable finance and healthcare industries we enjoy today.
  - ponector 3y ago
    Have you heard about Dieselgate?
    - psychlops 3y ago
      To what do you think I was referring? Did that comment need a /sarc tag?
Qwertious 3y ago
That's not the Chinese products though, that's Amazon natively supporting the faulty knock-off market. Every country has rort factories, if you look hard enough. And Amazon's binning system is perfectly designed to platform them to captive audiences.

mensetmanusman 3y ago

They cant control their own counterfeit supply chain, so we will never know until they do.