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I can't wait for the revel that GPT-4 is just a chat application connecting you to a the worlds biggest center in India. Joking aside, this feels massive. Both

I can't wait for the revel that GPT-4 is just a chat application connecting you to a the worlds biggest center in India. Joking aside, this feels massive. Both that it happened so suddenly and that the announcement doesn't mince words. The fact that the CTO is now CEO makes me think it's probably not a lie about their tech. It wouldn't make sense to say "we've been lying about our capabilities" and then appoint the current CTO as CEO. This makes me think it's either financial or a scandal around Sam himself. I can't wait to hear more

mkagenius 3y ago
Leaking secrets to Tim Cook?
sparkling 3y ago
> The fact that the CTO is now CEO makes me think it's probably not a lie about their tech. Agreed > This makes me think it's either financial or a scandal around Sam himself. I can't imagine it being about fake financials. This isn't Microsoft's first time doing due diligence on a acquisition. That is both technical and financial due diligence. And clearly they didn't buy the company because it was super profitable, but for the tech.
- superfrank 3y ago
  Microsoft didn't buy them did they? I thought it was just an investment. Either way though you're right that they probably did their DD. My first comment wasn't really about them not being profitable, it was more of a question about how close to bankruptcy they are. Again though, you're right that MSFT probably did their DD, so that's unlikely
  - sparkling 3y ago
    Correct. Strike "buy" and replace with "massive investment"
eiiot 3y ago
Then why is Greg Brockman stepping down as chairman of the board?
- superfrank 3y ago
  No idea, but it's important to note that Brockman is still at the company. Just no longer Chairman. Maybe he's not involved in this, but it's a "you should have known" type of thing? Really no idea...
  - brandall10 3y ago
    He might not be directly involved in whatever this is, just they asked him to step down after voting in favor of Sam.
coffeebeqn 3y ago
Ilya is also on the board and he knows the tech better than Sam
- choppaface 3y ago
  Ilya is religiously devoted to AI enough to overlook any sort of fraud or misrepresentation in the company.
atemerev 3y ago
> I can't wait for the revel that GPT-4 is just a chat application connecting you to a the worlds biggest center in India. Tempting, but you can launch Mistral-7B on your laptop and see the same coherent responses and reasoning from a 8GB model file. The magic is really there.
- huevosabio 3y ago
  Also, the technology of finding the right set of human experts on basically any topic in milliseconds in India would be a massive feat in of itself
  - robswc 3y ago
    lol yea. The idea that someone would be convinced after running an LLM on their laptop and not after seeing ChatGPT expertly respond at 400 WPM in 0.2 seconds, is funny.
- vocram 3y ago
  Did you try with your Internet off?
- dkarras 3y ago
  mistral 7b foundation model is the first AI related thing that excites me since the launch of ChatGPT. shows us that this tech is poised to be commodified, self hosted at a low cost eventually and won't necessarily be tied to and controlled by tech billionaires.
  - atemerev 3y ago
    In fact, Mistral is so exciting that I think it has some direct relationship to the topic of this discussion (they still don’t talk about how they trained it, at all). Perhaps there was some, how to say it, unexpected technology transfer, with Sam somehow involved.
    - dkarras 3y ago
chankstein38 3y ago
Right? haha or Sam himself answered every query from his phone lol... that's why sometimes it feels like it's typing more slowly than other times haha
- superfrank 3y ago
  Holy crap... Is ChatGPT just ChaCha for GenZ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaCha_(search_engine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaCha_(search_engine) Seriously though... I just remembered this was a thing and now I'm having crazy nostalgia.
  - drumttocs8 3y ago
    I remember signing up to do that in college to make extra money and them not accepting me. Bah!
davesque 3y ago
Yeah, it would be pretty surprising to find out that India has so many individuals that are profoundly competent at converting arbitrary text into rhymes in Elizabethan English.
- govg 3y ago
  I know this comment is just adding on to the joke, but the number of people who can speak / read English in India is very high. There are more English speakers in India than multiple large European countries combined.
  - hilux 3y ago
    Maybe so, but Indian English practically its own dialect at this point. Nothing wrong with that, but the responses I get from ChatGPT are not in that dialect. (Who knows, maybe by paying for ChatGPT Plus I qualify for an upgrade to the Irish data center.)
  - davesque 3y ago
    I said Elizabethan English, not English. As in Shakespeare. The point is that there are probably at most a few thousand people in the world who could display that level of competence at making Shakespearean rhymes. And I doubt enough of them work in call centers in India to service the entire user base of ChatGPT. Nothing about my comment implies that there are not millions of competent English speakers in India.
    - peteradio 3y ago
      Realistically there could be a mix of genuine LLM magic combined with heavy on the spot curation by massive teams of incredibly smart people.
- solardev 3y ago
  Mechanical Turks be hustlin'

mkagenius 3y ago

Leaking secrets to Tim Cook?

sparkling 3y ago

> The fact that the CTO is now CEO makes me think it's probably not a lie about their tech. Agreed > This makes me think it's either financial or a scandal around Sam himself. I can't imagine it being about fake financials. This isn't Microsoft's first time doing due diligence on a acquisition. That is both technical and financial due diligence. And clearly they didn't buy the company because it was super profitable, but for the tech.

superfrank 3y ago
Microsoft didn't buy them did they? I thought it was just an investment. Either way though you're right that they probably did their DD. My first comment wasn't really about them not being profitable, it was more of a question about how close to bankruptcy they are. Again though, you're right that MSFT probably did their DD, so that's unlikely
- sparkling 3y ago
  Correct. Strike "buy" and replace with "massive investment"

eiiot 3y ago

Then why is Greg Brockman stepping down as chairman of the board?

superfrank 3y ago
No idea, but it's important to note that Brockman is still at the company. Just no longer Chairman. Maybe he's not involved in this, but it's a "you should have known" type of thing? Really no idea...
- brandall10 3y ago
  He might not be directly involved in whatever this is, just they asked him to step down after voting in favor of Sam.

coffeebeqn 3y ago

Ilya is also on the board and he knows the tech better than Sam

choppaface 3y ago
Ilya is religiously devoted to AI enough to overlook any sort of fraud or misrepresentation in the company.

atemerev 3y ago

> I can't wait for the revel that GPT-4 is just a chat application connecting you to a the worlds biggest center in India. Tempting, but you can launch Mistral-7B on your laptop and see the same coherent responses and reasoning from a 8GB model file. The magic is really there.

huevosabio 3y ago
Also, the technology of finding the right set of human experts on basically any topic in milliseconds in India would be a massive feat in of itself
- robswc 3y ago
  lol yea. The idea that someone would be convinced after running an LLM on their laptop and not after seeing ChatGPT expertly respond at 400 WPM in 0.2 seconds, is funny.
vocram 3y ago
Did you try with your Internet off?
dkarras 3y ago
mistral 7b foundation model is the first AI related thing that excites me since the launch of ChatGPT. shows us that this tech is poised to be commodified, self hosted at a low cost eventually and won't necessarily be tied to and controlled by tech billionaires.
- atemerev 3y ago
  In fact, Mistral is so exciting that I think it has some direct relationship to the topic of this discussion (they still don’t talk about how they trained it, at all). Perhaps there was some, how to say it, unexpected technology transfer, with Sam somehow involved.
  - dkarras 3y ago

chankstein38 3y ago

Right? haha or Sam himself answered every query from his phone lol... that's why sometimes it feels like it's typing more slowly than other times haha

superfrank 3y ago
Holy crap... Is ChatGPT just ChaCha for GenZ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaCha_(search_engine) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChaCha_(search_engine) Seriously though... I just remembered this was a thing and now I'm having crazy nostalgia.
- drumttocs8 3y ago
  I remember signing up to do that in college to make extra money and them not accepting me. Bah!

davesque 3y ago

Yeah, it would be pretty surprising to find out that India has so many individuals that are profoundly competent at converting arbitrary text into rhymes in Elizabethan English.

govg 3y ago
I know this comment is just adding on to the joke, but the number of people who can speak / read English in India is very high. There are more English speakers in India than multiple large European countries combined.
- hilux 3y ago
  Maybe so, but Indian English practically its own dialect at this point. Nothing wrong with that, but the responses I get from ChatGPT are not in that dialect. (Who knows, maybe by paying for ChatGPT Plus I qualify for an upgrade to the Irish data center.)
- davesque 3y ago
  I said Elizabethan English, not English. As in Shakespeare. The point is that there are probably at most a few thousand people in the world who could display that level of competence at making Shakespearean rhymes. And I doubt enough of them work in call centers in India to service the entire user base of ChatGPT. Nothing about my comment implies that there are not millions of competent English speakers in India.
  - peteradio 3y ago
    Realistically there could be a mix of genuine LLM magic combined with heavy on the spot curation by massive teams of incredibly smart people.
solardev 3y ago
Mechanical Turks be hustlin'