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> The truck runs 12 hours a day, with a stop for charging when the driver takes a break I'm curious how much range it gets before needing a charge, and how lon

> The truck runs 12 hours a day, with a stop for charging when the driver takes a break I'm curious how much range it gets before needing a charge, and how long it takes to charge during that break. Running 12 hours a day doesn't tell us anything about distance covered.

SoftTalker 3y ago
My question as well. The next sentence says: "In the long term, the truck will also run between Gothenburg and the city of Borås, 70 km from Gothenburg." So the implication is that it's not being used for that distance yet. 70km is really not very far. Great if you can take some short haul diesels off the road I guess, but that's not even a 1-hr drive on most roads.
- baseline-shift 3y ago
  Distance isn't the only issue. Nobody needs that kind of power in a truck to get around in. But short haul and heavy duty like in a mine, this would be very handy.
  - esel2k 3y ago
    Recent documentary where those heavy CAT loaders in Sweden mines are electric: https://youtu.be/V5aDnIfBCKA?si=aQevXe13IjjFkgRQ https://youtu.be/V5aDnIfBCKA?si=aQevXe13IjjFkgRQ
- favorited 3y ago
  Germany is also experimenting with electrified highways, where trucks charge their batteries via a pantograph for stretches of the autobahn. Of course, they're also shuttering nuclear plants and reopening coal plants, so you might call it a step forward and a half-step backward... https://www.dw.com/en/germany-tests-first-ehighway-autobahn/a-48632817 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-tests-first-ehighway-autobahn/...
  - imtringued 3y ago
    This keeps getting repeated but the percentage of coal in the electricity mix hasn't risen whatsoever. What's getting delayed is a higher renewable percentage. The problem in Germany isn't "more coal".
seb1204 3y ago
It sounds like a good question to ask but the main point is that there is a use case for a truck this size/capacity that can work 12 hour/day. At worst it displaces a diesel truck working 12hours/day with same km. EV. Are awesome as they don't need to idle their engine so no diesel (or very few electrons) spent while waiting for loading etc.
throwaway892238 3y ago
Volvo's Class 8 electrics get around 275 mile range, which is more than Daimler's. Naturally, carrying more weight is gonna limit that range, dunno how much (any auto engineers around?)
jillesvangurp 3y ago
Mercedes recently did a test across the alps with their 40 tonne truck: https://electrek.co/2023/10/05/a-40-ton-mercedes-benz-e-truck-just-drove-1000-km-with-only-one-stop-to-charge/ https://electrek.co/2023/10/05/a-40-ton-mercedes-benz-e-truc... As for charging speed, this truck has 0.6 megawatt hour of battery on board. Mercedes used 600 kw chargers. So, that's about 1 hour. There are a few companies working on megawatt chargers for trucks, so that's a number that might come down. More battery in the truck is possible but also more expensive. And at least in Europe breaks are mandatory every four and half hours anyway. So, the driver might as well plug in while they rest. The battery wouldn't be completely empty by then so it tops up faster.

SoftTalker 3y ago

My question as well. The next sentence says: "In the long term, the truck will also run between Gothenburg and the city of Borås, 70 km from Gothenburg." So the implication is that it's not being used for that distance yet. 70km is really not very far. Great if you can take some short haul diesels off the road I guess, but that's not even a 1-hr drive on most roads.

baseline-shift 3y ago
Distance isn't the only issue. Nobody needs that kind of power in a truck to get around in. But short haul and heavy duty like in a mine, this would be very handy.
- esel2k 3y ago
  Recent documentary where those heavy CAT loaders in Sweden mines are electric: https://youtu.be/V5aDnIfBCKA?si=aQevXe13IjjFkgRQ https://youtu.be/V5aDnIfBCKA?si=aQevXe13IjjFkgRQ
favorited 3y ago
Germany is also experimenting with electrified highways, where trucks charge their batteries via a pantograph for stretches of the autobahn. Of course, they're also shuttering nuclear plants and reopening coal plants, so you might call it a step forward and a half-step backward... https://www.dw.com/en/germany-tests-first-ehighway-autobahn/a-48632817 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-tests-first-ehighway-autobahn/...
- imtringued 3y ago
  This keeps getting repeated but the percentage of coal in the electricity mix hasn't risen whatsoever. What's getting delayed is a higher renewable percentage. The problem in Germany isn't "more coal".

seb1204 3y ago

It sounds like a good question to ask but the main point is that there is a use case for a truck this size/capacity that can work 12 hour/day. At worst it displaces a diesel truck working 12hours/day with same km. EV. Are awesome as they don't need to idle their engine so no diesel (or very few electrons) spent while waiting for loading etc.

throwaway892238 3y ago

Volvo's Class 8 electrics get around 275 mile range, which is more than Daimler's. Naturally, carrying more weight is gonna limit that range, dunno how much (any auto engineers around?)

jillesvangurp 3y ago

Mercedes recently did a test across the alps with their 40 tonne truck: https://electrek.co/2023/10/05/a-40-ton-mercedes-benz-e-truck-just-drove-1000-km-with-only-one-stop-to-charge/ https://electrek.co/2023/10/05/a-40-ton-mercedes-benz-e-truc... As for charging speed, this truck has 0.6 megawatt hour of battery on board. Mercedes used 600 kw chargers. So, that's about 1 hour. There are a few companies working on megawatt chargers for trucks, so that's a number that might come down. More battery in the truck is possible but also more expensive. And at least in Europe breaks are mandatory every four and half hours anyway. So, the driver might as well plug in while they rest. The battery wouldn't be completely empty by then so it tops up faster.