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It's a prototype at the edge of what state of the art battery technology allows. Kudos to Tesla for having the guts and endurance to try. This is relevant for

It's a prototype at the edge of what state of the art battery technology allows. Kudos to Tesla for having the guts and endurance to try. This is relevant for Tesla and for the industry.

jojobas 3y ago
Except Musk was all out saying how it was production ready six years ago.
- fastball 3y ago
  Honestly "Musk always gives timelines that are completely unrealistic" is a pretty tired criticism at this point. Is it true? Absolutely. Does it matter much? Not really. They're clearly making progress. Not sure what more you want in real terms. Not being able to stick to self-imposed deadlines isn't ideal, but its also not a crime.
  - jojobas 3y ago
    It wasn't just the deadlines, he also declared many things as already achieved, including some patently impossible (such as 200kWh Roadster). Perhaps worded so SEC can't get his bum, I don't know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZeB7SwmkiQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZeB7SwmkiQ
    - fastball 3y ago
      Why do you believe a 200kWh battery to be impossible?
      - jojobas 3y ago
        A 1.5-ton battery on a sport roadster? You tell me.
        fastball 3y ago
        Nobody said it was intended to use the same battery chemistry as other vehicles.
        jojobas 3y ago
        No better chemistry exists outside a lab. Vaporware as it is.
vehemenz 3y ago
That is certainly one way to spin incompetent product design.
- Robotbeat 3y ago
  Incompetent? Show me a battery-electric semi truck with greater range. When you're actually doing something barely possible, it's hard.
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    I think I'd rather have a competent truck with mediocre range than a mediocre truck with competent range. Freightliner can add battery capacity a whole lot more easily than Tesla can make the Semi into a properly built truck.
  - Veserv 3y ago
    Are we talking range confirmed by third party or range claimed by a company who actively lies about the range of production vehicles and actively suppresses customer complaints that the range is grossly inaccurate [1]? [1] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-ba...

It's a prototype at the edge of what state of the art battery technology allows. Kudos to Tesla for having the guts and endurance to try. This is relevant for Tesla and for the industry.

jojobas 3y ago

Except Musk was all out saying how it was production ready six years ago.

fastball 3y ago
Honestly "Musk always gives timelines that are completely unrealistic" is a pretty tired criticism at this point. Is it true? Absolutely. Does it matter much? Not really. They're clearly making progress. Not sure what more you want in real terms. Not being able to stick to self-imposed deadlines isn't ideal, but its also not a crime.
- jojobas 3y ago
  It wasn't just the deadlines, he also declared many things as already achieved, including some patently impossible (such as 200kWh Roadster). Perhaps worded so SEC can't get his bum, I don't know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZeB7SwmkiQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZeB7SwmkiQ
  - fastball 3y ago
    Why do you believe a 200kWh battery to be impossible?
    - jojobas 3y ago
      A 1.5-ton battery on a sport roadster? You tell me.
      - fastball 3y ago
        Nobody said it was intended to use the same battery chemistry as other vehicles.
        jojobas 3y ago
        No better chemistry exists outside a lab. Vaporware as it is.

vehemenz 3y ago

That is certainly one way to spin incompetent product design.

Robotbeat 3y ago
Incompetent? Show me a battery-electric semi truck with greater range. When you're actually doing something barely possible, it's hard.
- rootusrootus 3y ago
  I think I'd rather have a competent truck with mediocre range than a mediocre truck with competent range. Freightliner can add battery capacity a whole lot more easily than Tesla can make the Semi into a properly built truck.
- Veserv 3y ago
  Are we talking range confirmed by third party or range claimed by a company who actively lies about the range of production vehicles and actively suppresses customer complaints that the range is grossly inaccurate [1]? [1] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-ba...