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Failures, particularly fires, around the engines and wings are either dealt with in minutes[1] or the state of the window becomes no longer relevant. [1] The c
by MadnessASAP 3y ago
Failures, particularly fires, around the engines and wings are either dealt with in minutes[1] or the state of the window becomes no longer relevant.
[1] The complete list of options are typically starvation, suppression, evacuation. Apply in that order and do so quickly.
- jacquesm 3y agoShouldn't there be an emergency landing somewhere in the middle there?
- ceejayoz 3y agoLanding is just a necessary part of the evacuation step.
- mulmen 3y agoIt’s definitely not necessary. Parachutes exist.
- ceejayoz 3y agoI think it's pretty clear the context is commercial air travel here. "Starvation, suppression, and evacuation" needs neither "emergency landing" nor "don a parachute" to be added to it to be understandable. Both are just prerequisite steps to the "evacuation" mitigation.
- jacquesm 3y agoWell, in a military context 'evacuation' might be 'pull the eject lever', but in a commercial aircraft the landing bit isn't optional because there are no ejection seats and there isn't a way to exit the plane other than after getting it on the ground (or the water) in one way or another. That prerequisite step may never be completed, due to the aircraft being destroyed before it can be evacuated.
- MadnessASAP 3y agoThere are incredibly rare exceptions but almost universally a uncontrolled fire on a aircraft in flight is not a survivable experience. I had a tremendous fear of flying in my younger years. I dealt with it through exposure and becoming a technician in the air force. Fire is the only thing that brings that fear back. Aircraft commonly survive (land) incredibly violent stresses, partial structural failures, widespread system failures, and explosions. They do not survive persistent fires. So no, if there is a fire, those 3 steps are your options regardless of the aircraft's location or altitude.
- jacquesm 3y agoTo quote George Carlin: "The safety lecture continues… “In the unlikely event of a water landing…” … … well what exactly is… a water landing? Am I mistaken or does this sound somewhat similar to CRASHING INTO THE OCEAN?!!! “…your seat cushion can be used as a floatation device.” Well imagine that: my seat cushion… just what I need… to float around the North Atlantic for several days, clinging to a pillow full of beer farts!" Interesting reversal: in my younger years I flew all over the planet, I can't even begin to estimate on how many flights I've been. And then, a couple of really bad flights in succession and I actually find it very difficult to contemplate flying again even if I know that statistically it's pretty safe and I'm exaggerating. Rationality only goes so far, apparently if you scare the lizard good a couple of times he remembers.
- marcosdumay 3y agoI wonder how many terrestrial planes ever landed on water leaving at least one survivor. There is that one case that made the news worldwide for months because of how hard it is... and I never heard about any other one.
- jacquesm 3y agoMany, actually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing
- ssnistfajen 3y agoIf an emergency landing was achieved it would imply the engine/wing fire was in a containable state.
- Terr_ 3y ago> or else the state of the window becomes no longer relevant. I appreciate this, er, implicit understatement.
- qeternity 3y agoRapid unscheduled disassembly.