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Those are just non-profit fundraiser consulting tactics. Don't take them personally, just ignore them. The reason they exist is that Wikipedia has too much mone
by GabeIsko 3y ago
Those are just non-profit fundraiser consulting tactics. Don't take them personally, just ignore them. The reason they exist is that Wikipedia has too much money, so they spend some on consultants who say they can raise more. It's weird, but that's how the world works.
I would much prefer the Wikipedia endowment model of non-profit orgs. They have a standard operating procedure with a predictable budget, and endowment that let's them run indefinitely, and we just have to suffer through pledge drives. I just block them with ublock filters. I gave them 6 dollars back in 2012, and according to their marketing that is enough for life.
- JohnFen 3y ago> Those are just non-profit fundraiser consulting tactics. Don't take them personally, just ignore them. I don't take them personally, of course, but they do encourage me to avoid forking over any money.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoany excuse to not donate!
- GabeIsko 3y agoWait till you find out the truth about matching donations.
- selcuka 3y agoNot really. They send those emails only to people who donated before.
- bshacklett 3y agoI donated regularly until I learned the darker side of their behavior. If they’d be more transparent, I might start donating again. Is it so awful to ask for organizations to act better to receive voluntary support?
- darthrupert 3y agoIt's a good idea to be careful where to donate your money to. Most of us have limited resources, and while we should donate to worthy causes certainly, we have the responsibility of at least trying to put those resources to good use that reflect our own values.
- cyrillite 3y ago[dead]
- wpietri 3y ago> Don't take them personally No. They are meant to manipulate me personally, as well as other persons I care about. I will take them personally. More broadly, I don't have to excuse bad behavior just because somebody's making money off it or because it makes some too-narrow metric go up. Yes, it's a complex and imperfect world. But to me that's a reason to work harder to make things better, not a reason for people to say, "fuck it" and make the world worse.
- charles_f 3y ago> They are meant to manipulate me personally, as well as other persons I care about. I will take them personally. This, absolutely! they play on people's psyche and mental cabling by trying to guilt you in the same way your parent would ; it's manipulative, and I have an absolute hatred for these tactics.
- dheera 3y agoI'm good at detecting manipulation now, and the more someone tries to manipulate me the less I will give in. I just put my money toward people who don't do that crap, and I want the manipulators to see that I'm giving money to their non-manipulating competitors.
- late2part 3y ago[flagged]
- unethical_ban 3y agoI agree with everything before the semicolon. But as an NPR listener, I find it hard to be offended by it.
- Dylan16807 3y agoI bet NPR spends far more of their incoming money on their main product.
- deanCommie 3y ago
- tivert 3y ago> Those are just non-profit fundraiser consulting tactics. Don't take them personally, just ignore them. The reason they exist is that Wikipedia has too much money, so they spend some on consultants who say they can raise more. It's weird, but that's how the world works. It's still shitty, even if it's a shitty "standard practice" and not a shitty thing being done to me particularly. Honestly, it seems like Wikipedia's goodwill is seen as an exploitable resource, that people in Wikimedia are using to do other, unnecessary things (probably building little personal fiefdoms). Sort of like Mozilla, actually. IIRC, they literally won't let you give them money to fund Firefox development, and any donations you give them go to fiefdoms almost certainty entirely unrelated to why you gave them money.
- GabeIsko 3y agoYeah I agree. But that's consulting for you. There is a lot to not like about the evils of consulting, but wikipedia being free and doing pledge drives are on the more mild side of what's wrong.
- Obscurity4340 3y agoSo...is Wikipedia at the level where they can invest to ensure they're sustained indefinitely?
- concordDance 3y agoWikipedia? Yes easily. Wikimedia? No, they're a money black hole and will eat whatever you give them.
- Obscurity4340 3y agoYou ever checked out Uncyclopedia? Nothing on that site is not like, hysterically funny and random. I'm glad Wikipedia has been such as inspiration to us all XD Edit: check out https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Krispy_Kreme https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Krispy_Kreme XD
- Obscurity4340 3y agoWhat about Signal? The article they put out is like 30 minutes in my audio reader lol
- 3seashells 3y agoIt's basically a attempt at sql injection to the brain. Can't wait for AI glasses to filter that crap once and for all from reality.