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This is sarcasm right?

• Mashimo 3y ago
  You don't think this will lower the barrier of entry for music creation?
  • vouaobrasil 3y ago
    NO, it will lower the barrier for music generation, which is different from CREATION, which implies a creative act.
    • gardenhedge 3y ago
      I think you're looking at this wrong. If I have an idea for a song I my head, I could record myself humming or sining it. While it might represent a thought, feeling or experience it's not going to be very pleasant. With AI, I will be able to transform it into something enjoyable. That is creation and not just generation.
      • Juliate 3y ago
        Between someone that generated music from ideas, and someone that spent time and thinking and practicing to refine and these ideas, each will not relate the same to the end result. If only because the latter will know which happy/sad accidents made it to the end, and which did not, based on a specific judgement, or moment. I've already done both. Generators are only good to produce specific ideas to integrate sometimes, at most. It's exactly the same difference between writing your own novel, and getting it written by a text generator. You don't relate to the story, and to the characters, the same way. You may not even _explain_ them the same way.
        • Mashimo 3y ago
          But you can use AI and still refine these ideas. The entry is just easier. On a walk -> Idea -> hum melody into website -> listen if that is something that floats your goat. And then you can follow the traditional way of midi keyboard + daw or however you produce.
      • bossyTeacher 3y ago
        Missing the point. The vast majority of uses for this will be music generation for profit: const song = generateSong() const royalties = Spotify.Publish(song) Bank.getRoyalties(royalties) You have to think of this like a typewriter or a word document. It is mostly used for profit. And profit always wins over anything else
        • gardenhedge 3y ago
          Did you reply to me? I'm the OP of this comment tread so it's not me who is missing the point at all. In the context of my original post, AI in music will be a barrier to entry for _creation_. It is not relevant how Spotify use AI in music.
    • Mashimo 3y ago
      Why is it creative to hum a melody -> match in daw -> work on it creative but hum -> AI generation -> work on it in daw is not?
    • sgift 3y ago
      It's your conjecture that using AI tools doesn't involve a creative act. That conjecture may be true inside your mind, but so far you haven't provided support for it through your words - all you did was scream into the void as if everyone who doesn't agree with your conjecture is mad.
  • iamsaitam 3y ago
    That's not the point that I find sarcastic, but whole rest of it. Yes it lowers the barrier of entry, don't think anyone can disagree with that.
  • Juliate 3y ago
    The entry for music creation is really not high. It first resides in your own, personal, self appreciation: do you feel yourself legitimate to sing, to play, to say something, for yourself, or to present to others? That's the only valid question. The rest, all the rest, comes from that. And it does not require to be complicated or complex or clever music at this point. Sure, you may start with the practice, with the education, the experimentation, if you have not answered for yourself that first question, you won't create/play music or songs, you'll just apply a rulebook. Then, another totally different question may be, can you find a way to get a sufficient revenue from that activity. But that's another question still.
• gardenhedge 3y ago
  It's not sarcasm. If you expand your short comment I can address it.