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I don't really understand why China would even invade Taiwan. They would be killing "their own" people, and destroying "their own" infrastructure (by their perc

I don't really understand why China would even invade Taiwan. They would be killing "their own" people, and destroying "their own" infrastructure (by their perception). Much better option is some sort of economic war, sanctions, naval blockade... US is importing a lot from China, even factories in Mexico are just assembling Chinese parts. I do not think support for Taiwan would survive for very long.

actionfromafar 3y ago
People had the same arguments for not invading Ukraine.
- Throwfi44 3y ago
  We are 18 months into war, but electric grid and rail network are still functional. You can go to Kiev for weekend break from Poland in overnight train...
  - _ph_ 3y ago
    They are still functional, because of the heroic defense by the Ukrainian people and quick rebuilding. Russia was explicitly targeting and quite a lot destroying the Ukraine electric infrastructure. Unfortunately it looks like they are stockpiling rockets to repeat those attacks in this winter. A strong support by the west also helped Ukraine to fight back a lot.
android521 3y ago
just look at chinese history (or the history of most nations), you would find tons and tons of examples of chinese rulers killing tens of thousands of other chinese people in pointless wars for pointless reasons.
- konart 3y ago
  >pointless wars for pointless reasons. They may look pointless to _you_ at the _present_ time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
  - orwin 3y ago
    No, most were pointless for 99%+ of the people living on earth at any point in time.
    - konart 3y ago
      This is factually not true.
- geckbench 3y ago
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Lio 3y ago
You only have to go back to the Guangxi Massacre[1] during the Cultural Revolution to see that historically the CCP has not had a problem with killing its own people. They used some pretty inventive ways to do it too. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre
justin66 3y ago
> economic war, sanctions, naval blockade... US is importing a lot from China China’s navy is capable of disrupting things around China, and could prevent exports from Taiwan from reaching other countries. The US Navy is capable of disrupting things everywhere, and could prevent ships carrying food and oil from reaching China. > I do not think support for Taiwan would survive for very long. I don’t know how to predict that, but the US would tangibly be giving up a lot by letting Taiwan fall. That alone is motivation that might have seemed somewhat lacking when comparing a confrontation with China over Taiwan with some of the other conflicts the US has recently taken part in.

actionfromafar 3y ago

People had the same arguments for not invading Ukraine.

Throwfi44 3y ago
We are 18 months into war, but electric grid and rail network are still functional. You can go to Kiev for weekend break from Poland in overnight train...
- _ph_ 3y ago
  They are still functional, because of the heroic defense by the Ukrainian people and quick rebuilding. Russia was explicitly targeting and quite a lot destroying the Ukraine electric infrastructure. Unfortunately it looks like they are stockpiling rockets to repeat those attacks in this winter. A strong support by the west also helped Ukraine to fight back a lot.

android521 3y ago

just look at chinese history (or the history of most nations), you would find tons and tons of examples of chinese rulers killing tens of thousands of other chinese people in pointless wars for pointless reasons.

konart 3y ago
>pointless wars for pointless reasons. They may look pointless to _you_ at the _present_ time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
- orwin 3y ago
  No, most were pointless for 99%+ of the people living on earth at any point in time.
  - konart 3y ago
    This is factually not true.
geckbench 3y ago
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Lio 3y ago

You only have to go back to the Guangxi Massacre[1] during the Cultural Revolution to see that historically the CCP has not had a problem with killing its own people. They used some pretty inventive ways to do it too. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangxi_Massacre

justin66 3y ago

> economic war, sanctions, naval blockade... US is importing a lot from China China’s navy is capable of disrupting things around China, and could prevent exports from Taiwan from reaching other countries. The US Navy is capable of disrupting things everywhere, and could prevent ships carrying food and oil from reaching China. > I do not think support for Taiwan would survive for very long. I don’t know how to predict that, but the US would tangibly be giving up a lot by letting Taiwan fall. That alone is motivation that might have seemed somewhat lacking when comparing a confrontation with China over Taiwan with some of the other conflicts the US has recently taken part in.